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You can now get fined for "distracted walking" at TRAX stations

JJ Rage said:
I think the only legal way to keep people from suing you is to make them sign a waiver or form of TOS document.



If it turns out that, 6 or so months down the road, UTA cops aren't policing this new law, then I will concede the fact this move was only made to cover their asses for lawsuits. Until then, I'm going to retain my right to be cynical and assume that this is just another in a long line of ways for UTA to make a profit off of it's passengers.

I used Trax to commute every day for the past year, and the majority of incidents that I heard about or that directly affected my commute were collisions with vehicles, not people.
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All we really need is a couple of concepts. Right of way goes to the train, no exceptions. And Franklin's handrails at the stations.

The distracted walking fines, like SLC idling ordinances, are do-gooder nannyism and will barely feed the "hall monitors" and personnel required to enforce them.

Still from an insurance agent's perspective, this is how insurance companies keep winning. Insure us at yesterday's mortality statistics while doing everything to make the government keep us from killing ourselves "by accident". If the insurance companies had their way, we'd all be living in plastic bubbles and never allowed to touch reality.
 
babe said:
Just for the record, I went with my wife to the republican caucus, and registered right there as a republican so I could vote for Ron Paul over Mitt, and against Hatch or whatever. There were thirty people in our district that showed up. I was feeling really sad for my wife and wanting to give her some indication that life will go on and the better things will be done for our country. She didn't want to run for delegate because she's just not going to be able to do all that for a while, so I did. I lost by two votes. So I ran as alternate, and lost by two votes. Then they wanted somebody to keep minutes and collect donations. Nobody volunteered but me. So I'm "it".

Then, a week ago, while sitting in the picnic area waiting for my wife and kids at Disneyland, with all the grub spread out waiting for them, I got a call. GOP party folks had a problem, they had messed up, and needed one more delegate. Would I be it?

"Yes."

Now candidates are calling me and wanting me to show up for food and hype.
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I knew you were there, and I know you're heavily involved, which is why it should've been obvious that I wasn't talking about you, but morons in general. (like MillSlopper) Congrats on being a delegate, seriously. All of a sudden, your voice is magnified 1,000 fold, which is awesome. There is a tool in my district that is a delegate and tried to prod me into running, but his reasoning was so damn irritating that I refused on principle: "You get invited to the best parties and get all the free food you can eat. It's an awesome way to make political friends and allies." You're doing it wrong, douche bag.
 
babe said:
Still from an insurance agent's perspective, this is how insurance companies keep winning. Insure us at yesterday's mortality statistics while doing everything to make the government keep us from killing ourselves "by accident". If the insurance companies had their way, we'd all be living in plastic bubbles and never allowed to touch reality.
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I have a big issue with insurance setting local laws but it's such an obvious point that a rant isn't worth the time. We've seen a lot of laws lately with the reasoning being "we had to make this law or we couldn't get an insurance policy".

We're seeing the same with the ACA right now. Obama was against the individual mandate during his campaign, saying it would only make the poor poorer. Then the insurance industry lined his pockets with $2.8mm and asked that he forced us to purchase their products. If you can't afford it then we should subsidize you. $2.8mm to force 30,000,000 people to buy your products was the best investment anyone has ever made.

Now the Supreme Court is considering knocking down the entire law to save the insurance industry. If they knock down the mandate only then the industry will be required to cover all the bad without getting the money and it will bankrupt them. Then we would be left with no option but the fully socialized one.
 
babe said:
Just for the record, I went with my wife to the republican caucus, and registered right there as a republican so I could vote for Ron Paul over Mitt, and against Hatch or whatever. There were thirty people in our district that showed up. I was feeling really sad for my wife and wanting to give her some indication that life will go on and the better things will be done for our country. She didn't want to run for delegate because she's just not going to be able to do all that for a while, so I did. I lost by two votes. So I ran as alternate, and lost by two votes. Then they wanted somebody to keep minutes and collect donations. Nobody volunteered but me. So I'm "it".

Then, a week ago, while sitting in the picnic area waiting for my wife and kids at Disneyland, with all the grub spread out waiting for them, I got a call. GOP party folks had a problem, they had messed up, and needed one more delegate. Would I be it?

"Yes."

Now candidates are calling me and wanting me to show up for food and hype.
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If you are in the 4th district have you considered Mia Love?

https://www.love4utah.com/
 
https://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=20400983&title=woman-dies-in-trax-accident&s_cid=queue-12
SALT LAKE CITY — A woman is dead after being hit by a northbound TRAX train Monday morning in South Salt Lake.

The accident occurred at the Meadowbrook station at 188 W. 3900 South. The victim, in her mid-20s, was transported via ambulance to the hospital. South Salt Lake police later confirmed the victim's injuries were fatal.

3900 South was closed to traffic but has been reopened. Trains are still experiencing delays, according to UTA.

A cell phone case and a lunchbag were found on the station platform.

"At some point, the train struck her," said South Salt Lake Police spokesman Gary Keller. "It's unsure if she was struck by the front of the train or the side of the train, but nonetheless she received very severe injuries and died from those injuries."

Police are investigating the cause of the accident and whether the woman was distracted — possibly by an iPod or cell phone — when she was hit. "Unless she was very distracted, we'll have a hard time knowing exactly why she stepped into the path of the train," UTA spokesman Gerry Carpenter said.
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HipHopAnonymous said:
Saw this on the news. They have yet to give out a ticket for being distracted. So it may be just a hollow threat.
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Another one of those laws that will only be enforced if the officer doesn't like you. What a great way to set up a civil society! Then if you're either confused or upset as to why this law is being enforced on you then the officer gets to tackle you and put his knee in the back of your neck.
 
Gameface said:
Another one of those laws that will only be enforced if the officer doesn't like you. What a great way to set up a civil society! Then if you're either confused or upset as to why this law is being enforced on you then the officer gets to tackle you and put his knee in the back of your neck.
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Not all cops are a-holes.

I'd like to see those who bitch about how bad cops and corrupt they are spend a week doing what they do.
 
My old stomping grounds is right on a trax station. I was there collecting rent and saw a girl, well, woman maybe 19, just loitering on the rails, like it was just fun to stand there to wait for the train.

No matter how good government can be, there is always going to be a certain idiocy in the populace.

We can hope the I gene will not perpetrate itself all we want, but it is probably the one thing that makes us human, as in distinguishable from machines. And it's the only excuse governance has.
 
JJ Rage said:
https://gizmodo.com/5897675/you-better-watch-where-youre-walking-in-utah


Are you ****ing KIDDING ME? Some ******* becomes roadkill because he won't put down his game of Angry Birds so now I have to leave my headphones off and get harassed by the never-ending parade of bums and drug addicts asking for handouts at the TRAX platforms. Fan-****ing-tastic.

There are far too many laws in this country policing human stupidity. If someone is stupid enough to not look both ways when crossing TRAIN TRACKS, they deserve to die. Natural selection, ****ers.
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Yes, you're being punished because everyone else is stupid.
How is this any different from any other laws?

It's a good idea, imo.
 
Is this thread about the Distracted @ Trax law, or is it really about the infractions rules here, and distracted posting?
 
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