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PKM said:
Kyle has a LOT to prove this year, as far as I am concerned .. I'm never sold on the hype of a tall guy being billed as a PG. He's good, very good, but totally void of a position .. which will be exposed in college .. the NBA? .. more so.
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If he was 6-7 quick with PG skills it would be very different. IMO SF is the the street position in the NBA with PG a close second.
 
orangello said:
That is where Poythress is expected to be drafted as well. Poythress seems more athletic, strong and much quicker then Anderson is.

PS, I love that this is already going on. Let the debates begin!
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Don't get me wrong, I'm much higher on Poythress...I just don't think he'll be available when we pick.
 
Kyle Anderson is strictly a point-forward with a limited shot. His success in the NBA is entirely dependent on the team that drafts him and the system they run.

Pothyress is/will be a stud. That is all.

Nerlen Noels will be a large disappointment. He'll be good defensively, but I predict for at least half the season he will be completely lost offensively. Cal typically does well though, so we'll see. I'm not expecting a lot out of him.

Bazz is gonna do what Bazz does...be a stud.

Will this be the year that Mason Plumlee utilized his athleticism and develops an offensive game? My vote says no.

Speaking of Duke, Alex Murphy has reportedly grown since coming in (he's now 6'9 and 220) and will be a very good redshirt freshman in the ACC. I would except him to start.

I'm impressed with McAdoo's athleticism, I'm not impressed with his skills. Very, very raw, which was surprising since he's an NBA players son. I don't trust Roy to develop him, but we'll see.

PG crop is young and risky. Very hard to tell who's going to be good until about halfway through the year IMO...I'm going to hold off on my opinions on them until then.

In response to PKM and Saltair...Harrow is too small for the NBA unless if he's muscled up. Aaron Craft is a good college player, strictly a backup in the NBA. Poor-mans Kirk Hinrich.

I'm a fan of PJ Hairston. NBA size and a smooth stroke, should do well in UNC's system if he gets the playing time.

I know I said I wouldn't talk about PG's, but I lied. I like Ray McCallum a lot, very athletic, really needs to improve his shooting, but I like his game.

I know I wrote a lot, but yeah, I'm bored. Hope y'all enjoy. Back to the bottle for me now.
 
Top 100 Draft Prospects
RK PLAYER NAME AGE POS HT WT SCHOOL/COUNTRY PROJECTION
1 Nerlens Noel 18 C 6-11 215 Kentucky Top 5 Pick
Mar 28 Update: Scouts are hoping that Noel is Anthony Davis 2.0. Both are ...more
2 Cody Zeller 19 C 6-11 210 Indiana Top 3 Pick
Apr 10 Update: Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd Gilchrist may have been the best ...more
3 Shabazz Muhammad 18 SF 6-6 223 UCLA Top 3 Pick
Mar 28 Update: Muhammad is a super-athletic scoring machine who gets to the paint ...more
4 James Michael McAdoo 19 PF 6-9 223 North Carolina Top 10 Pick
Apr 5 Update: McAdoo announced that he's returning to school for his sophomore season. ...more
5 Alex Poythress SF 6-7 215 Kentucky Top 10 Pick
June 27 Update: At 6-8 with a wingspan over 7-0, Poythress already has the ...more
6 Isaiah Austin 18 PF 7-0 210 Baylor Top 10 Pick
Mar 28 Update: Austin is one of the most unique players in this class. ...more
7 Steven Adams 18 PF 6-10 240 Pittsburgh Top 10 Pick
Mar 28 Update: Adams came over from New Zealand midseason to play for Notre ...more
8 Rudy Gobert 20 PF 7-1 220 France Top 10 Pick
June 14 Update: While Gobert was not in the camp, he competed for the ...more
9 Tony Mitchell 20 SF 6-8 220 North Texas Lottery Pick
Apr 9 Update: Mitchell is one of the most talented players in the country ...more
10 Adonis Thomas 19 SF 6-7 217 Memphis Lottery Pick
Apr 8 Update: Thomas was one of the most highly regarded high school seniors ...more
11 Anthony Bennett 19 PF 6-8 230 UNLV Lottery Pick
Mar 28 Update: After those first four, the obvious NBA talent starts to drop ...more
12 B.J. Young 19 PG 6-3 170 Arkansas Lottery Pick
April 10 Update: Young is an explosive combo guard who is coming off a ...more
13 Patric Young 20 C 6-9 245 Florida Lottery Pick
Mar 15 Update: Young told reporters on Thursday that he will return to the ...more
14 Myck Kabongo 19 PG 6-1 170 Texas Lottery Pick
Mar 26 Update: Kabongo flirted with declaring for the draft, but made the right ...more
15 Kyle Anderson 19 SF 6-8 233 UCLA Lottery Pick
Mar 28 Update: Anderson is one of those super-skilled point forwards who can make ...more
16 Archie Goodwin 17 SG 6-5 195 Kentucky Second Round Pick/Undrafted
June 27 Update: He is a combination guard with NBA size who should have ...more
17 Ricardo Ledo PG 6-6 180 Providence Late First Round
June 27 Update: He has turned some heads playing the point guard position for ...more
18 Dario Saric 18 SF 6-10 223 Croatia Mid First Round
Apr 11, 2010 Update: Saric was the youngest player at the Hoop Summit. He ...more
19 C.J. Leslie 21 PF 6-8 206 NC State Mid First Round Pick
Apr 18 Update: Leslie announced that he was returning to school for his junior ...more
20 Wayne Blackshear 20 SG 6-5 200 Louisville Second Round Pick/Undrafted
Apr 3 Update: The best NBA prospect on the floor for Louisville was Wayne ...more

I have to drive half way to slc in the am so here is the top 20
 
Verlin said:
Hmmm ledo. Forgot about him. Is he a riser? I think so.
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I like his game a lot, he's got kind of a funky release on his shot, but it seems to work. I love that he already has a floater when he goes into his lane, at his size it's virtually unstoppable and that's a skill that translates to any level. I do question his work ethic and basketball IQ. It will be interesting to see him play next to Kris Dunn (he's going to Providence, right?).
 
The 2012 thread was started in November last year and took almost 40 hours to get to this point. It now has 613 pages. That's after it died quite a bit from not having a first round pick.

So whats the over/under for this thread? Can it live up to last years?

Sequels are almost never as good as the original, will this be an exception?
 
Verlin said:
Aye Aye Aye,

Not a sure thing by a mile yet. Anthiont B of UNLV far surer thing. Keep an eye on UNLV this year. They are hoing to blow up. Potentially 3 forst rounders in Moser, Benett and Birch. They may not be listed high, but UNLV will be the talk of the NCAA this season no doubt. ESPN needs a new story. sorry PKM
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I root for UNLV boyz, for obvious reasons

re: Phil Pressey; I think he is a leader on the floor.
he may not be flashy etc but he has "it" to lead the team there.
 
B.J. Young has my attention. Although I'd much rather have a pure point, which this draft seems to lack completely.
 
orangello said:
If he was 6-7 quick with PG skills it would be very different. IMO SF is the the street position in the NBA with PG a close second.
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Yes to the first part, obviously. I just think he's too slow for any position 1 - 3.
 
HotRodHundley'sBooze said:
Kyle Anderson is strictly a point-forward with a limited shot. His success in the NBA is entirely dependent on the team that drafts him and the system they run.

Pothyress is/will be a stud. That is all.

Nerlen Noels will be a large disappointment. He'll be good defensively, but I predict for at least half the season he will be completely lost offensively. Cal typically does well though, so we'll see. I'm not expecting a lot out of him.

Bazz is gonna do what Bazz does...be a stud.

Will this be the year that Mason Plumlee utilized his athleticism and develops an offensive game? My vote says no.

Speaking of Duke, Alex Murphy has reportedly grown since coming in (he's now 6'9 and 220) and will be a very good redshirt freshman in the ACC. I would except him to start.

I'm impressed with McAdoo's athleticism, I'm not impressed with his skills. Very, very raw, which was surprising since he's an NBA players son. I don't trust Roy to develop him, but we'll see.

PG crop is young and risky. Very hard to tell who's going to be good until about halfway through the year IMO...I'm going to hold off on my opinions on them until then.

In response to PKM and Saltair...Harrow is too small for the NBA unless if he's muscled up. Aaron Craft is a good college player, strictly a backup in the NBA. Poor-mans Kirk Hinrich.

I'm a fan of PJ Hairston. NBA size and a smooth stroke, should do well in UNC's system if he gets the playing time.

I know I said I wouldn't talk about PG's, but I lied. I like Ray McCallum a lot, very athletic, really needs to improve his shooting, but I like his game.

I know I wrote a lot, but yeah, I'm bored. Hope y'all enjoy. Back to the bottle for me now.
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Very good post! I agree with about every word (though I think you slightly undervalue what Mason will do this year, but not what he will do in the NBA).
Glad to have this 'new' poster on the forum. ;)
 
sgjazzfan said:
The 2012 thread was started in November last year and took almost 40 hours to get to this point. It now has 613 pages. That's after it died quite a bit from not having a first round pick.

So whats the over/under for this thread? Can it live up to last years?

Sequels are almost never as good as the original, will this be an exception?
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I also think that when the 2012 thread started, there weren't many posters here that knew anything about college players. I think that number went up drastically. I predict there will be more doing their own research, more watching some college games, and therefore more posting/debating than last year. O/U at 800.
 
NUMBERICA said:
B.J. Young has my attention. Although I'd much rather have a pure point, which this draft seems to lack completely.
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B.J. is a really good player .. I think he needs to get his PG on for him to be effective in the league and I have my doubts .. it will come down to coaching.

Yes, this draft will be the weakest EVER (end hyperbole) for PG's .. and there will only be 2 or 3 the following year .. yikes!
 
PKM said:
Yes to the first part, obviously. I just think he's too slow for any position 1 - 3.
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My point exactly. He might have been great in HS, less impactful in College and from the looks of it he would be lucky to be a rotation player in the NBA. That is unless he gets faster or stronger or develops a threatening outside shot.

I haven't watched him much but that is my quick understanding.
 
orangello said:
My point exactly. He might have been great in HS, less impactful in College and from the looks of it he would be lucky to be a rotation player in the NBA. That is unless he gets faster or stronger or develops a threatening outside shot.

I haven't watched him much but that is my quick understanding.
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He'll do okay at UCLA because he has 'Bazz to help hide his deficiencies somewhat. If I were him, I'd roll the dice on being seen as a true PG (that's weak defensively) rather than a SF (that can't shoot and is weak defensively). He's too slow and too poor of shot ... I predict a late lottery though, because of his size and upside .. ugh.
 
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