Enes Kanter - The good and the bad (how advanced stats show what we've all been thinking)

[Hitman]

It seems there has been much talk of Kanter's shortcomings, successes, and comparisons here lately. I wanted to investigate the following assumptions about Kanter by looking at his quantitative measurements, and how he ranks in comparison to the rest of the league.

First - Let's look at Kanter's rebound rate

14th in the entire league at rebound rate

Actually 13th, Jordan Hill is listed twice. Doesn't change your conclusion, I'm just a stat pedant .

This. I know Kevin Love has added this gimmick to his game, but unless your 40% + I bet the advanced stats would show he is really hurting his team doing it.

Kevin Love always had range, but in his rookie year his coach didn't want him shooting 3s, but to play inside. Kanter may have been playing under similar orders last season - I keep hearing that he has an outside game, but I only saw him shoot a handful of jumpers last season. His stroke looked good, but too small a sample size to draw any conclusions.

 

[addictionary]

Enes is a man of clichés already when it comes to critisizm. He must be an NBA player.

 

[write4u]

It all comes down to this: Enes is as strong as an ox and as slow as a turtle. Call him Chief Nagippehooto, that's Hopi for Chief TurtleOx.

 

[Park Bites]

To be honest if I had to pick one player I want kanter to be even close to in comparisons is Kevin love with less of a 3 pt shot. Every one said love could jump and wasn't going to get his shot off in the nba. if kanter can learn to hit the mid range maybe a little pick and pop at the 3 then his post game will open up.

I agree I am holding off judgement until the end of this year. When he has a full off season, training camp and full year to work on. He needs 15 to 17 min a game next year too.

 

[sepanol]

Is he any less blackhole than Al Jefferson?

Hell Yeah

 

[Qman]

I got to watch some Jared Sullinger last night as I was Jimmer scouting. Offensively Sullinger is probably Kanter's ceiling. Sullinger has a jumper out to the 3pt line. He has a baby hook and fadeaway as a counter. He rebounds flatfooted by size, strength and great positioning. Now Kanter is significantly bigger. But he could to worse than patterning his offensive game off of Sullinger's.

But Kanter's offensive game can wait. He will always be a good rebounder. He may become a great one. I want him to develop better defensive footwork and awareness first. That way he can get on the court for extended periods of time and be an assest.

I guess my hopes for his offensive development are limited. But he doesn't need to develop offensively to be a big part of our team going forward.

 

[franklin]

Great. A less offensive Omer Asik. I got your potential booyah! right here.

 

[jope]

Is he any less blackhole than Al Jefferson?

Hell Yeah

statistically speaking, he was the biggest black hole in the entire NBA.

Now IMO, this won't always be the case (in the jazz offense, if your head is up and you are reading the defense, you should be able to find at least 1 cutter per game. this skill should hopefully come over time for Kanter), but 8 assists in 874 minutes (0.009 assists per minute) doesn't really inspire a whole lot of confidence in his passing skills/bball IQ.

 

[Jeffrey32]

He only played one year with no training, camp, and before that played no orgainzed basketball for a year. Give him a break.

 

[mtnbayou]

Decent role player. Nothing more.

 

[rcb1820]

Inaccurate metaphor to label him "as slow as a turtle." It's one of those labels that takes on a life of its own through repetition on message boards. His lateral movement isn't cat quick, for sure, but he does a better job than Big Al. He's far more athletic, too, than people give him credit for, and he's starting to hit the free-throw-line jumper. As he matures and gains playing experience and confidence, he's going to justify his No. 3 selection; besides, how many young bigs last year had a better season than he did?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Inaccurate metaphor to label him "as slow as a turtle." It's one of those labels that takes on a life of its own through repetition on message boards. His lateral movement isn't cat quick, for sure, but he does a better job than Big Al. He's far more athletic, too, than people give him credit for, and he's starting to hit the free-throw-line jumper. As he matures and gains playing experience and confidence, he's going to justify his No. 3 selection; besides, how many young bigs last year had a better season than he did?

He is about as unathletic as a NBA player can get. I guess he isn't on Al Jefferson foot-speed (or lack there of) level, but he is also about 1/2 as quick as Jefferson is with his coordination (as it relates to footwork and getting his shot off with speed).