No BYU-Utah Rivalry Football Games in 2014 or 2015

[CONAN]

I don't care too much about who wins awards. For prestige it's nice but I'd rather have 10 players on watch lists versus 1 or 2 guys win an award. To me watch lists show you more about where the talent is on a team (and amount of talent) than anything else.

For example, the smack talk about Nelson versus Wynn. Even some Utes are grudgingly giving Nelson the nod but plenty of zoobs saying how much Nelson sucks (including myself). But he is on the QB watch list. Which really only puts him in the top third of college QBs. So for as much as we (Utes and Cougs) think Nelson sucks, he really is decent and the gap between him and Wynn may be bigger than we say. I mean Utes downgrade Nelson cuz he's a Cougar. Zoobs downgrade Nelson cuz he's below what we are used to from QBs here.

Time will tell.

 

[CONAN]

We haven't seen a healthy Wynn since he was a true freshman. Any judgment right now (other than him being injury prone) is premature.

He was good enough as a true freshman for me to be confident that he will be good if he can stay healthy. Certainly much better than Riley Nelson.

Being injury-prone is a pretty big deal. Talent is irrelevant if you can't stay on the field. Now if it's some freak accident then fine but Wynn is brittle and that's a factor. I've never seen a QB more uncomfortable with contact then Wynn. He doesn't know how to hit or take a hit or even run well.

 

[TroutBum]

YEAR PLAYER AWARD
2001 Luke Staley Doak Walker Award
1991 Ty Detmer Davey O'Brien Award
1990 Ty Detmer Davey O'Brien Award
1990 Ty Detmer Heisman Memorial Trophy
1990 Ty Detmer Maxwell Award
1989 Mo Elewonibi Outland Trophy
1986 Jason Buck Outland Trophy
1983 Steve Young Davey O'Brien Award
1981 Jim McMahon Davey O'Brien Award

YEAR PLAYER AWARD
2004 Urban Meyer The Home Depot Award

Ok, so BYU players have won 9 awards in their history.
Utah players have won 0... I repeat ZERO awards in their history.
Good thing they had Urban come in and win the Home Depot Award... what the crap is that? They couldn't get a player to win an award, but they got a coach to win an award... and nobody even knows what the heck it is. I think it's an award for the fastest time between telling fans you will stay and having all of your things on a plane to somewhere else.

This is getting embarrassing. Way to go, Spazz, now there's ANOTHER thread that green can't come back to.

I don't care too much about who wins awards. For prestige it's nice but I'd rather have 10 players on watch lists versus 1 or 2 guys win an award. To me watch lists show you more about where the talent is on a team (and amount of talent) than anything else.

For example, the smack talk about Nelson versus Wynn. Even some Utes are grudgingly giving Nelson the nod but plenty of zoobs saying how much Nelson sucks (including myself). But he is on the QB watch list. Which really only puts him in the top third of college QBs. So for as much as we (Utes and Cougs) think Nelson sucks, he really is decent and the gap between him and Wynn may be bigger than we say. I mean Utes downgrade Nelson cuz he's a Cougar. Zoobs downgrade Nelson cuz he's below what we are used to from QBs here.

Time will tell.

That's a damn good post.

 

[UGLI baby]

YEARPLAYERAWARD
2001Luke StaleyDoak Walker Award
1991Ty DetmerDavey O'Brien Award
1990Ty DetmerDavey O'Brien Award
1990Ty DetmerHeisman Memorial Trophy
1990Ty DetmerMaxwell Award
1989Mo ElewonibiOutland Trophy
1986Jason BuckOutland Trophy
1983Steve YoungDavey O'Brien Award
1981Jim McMahonDavey O'Brien Award

YEARPLAYERAWARD
2004Urban MeyerThe Home Depot Award

Ok, so BYU players have won 9 awards in their history.
Utah players have won 0... I repeat ZERO awards in their history.
Good thing they had Urban come in and win the Home Depot Award... what the crap is that? They couldn't get a player to win an award, but they got a coach to win an award... and nobody even knows what the heck it is. I think it's an award for the fastest time between telling fans you will stay and having all of your things on a plane to somewhere else.

Do you guys post stuff like this to make up for the fact that there wasnt an Internet in existence to post it on when it actually happened?

 

[TroutBum]

Do you guys post stuff like this to make up for the fact that there wasnt an Internet in existence to post it on when it actually happened?

Funny. If I could give you rep, I would. Alas, I'll just have to neg your dumb *** for being pert.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Do you guys post stuff like this to make up for the fact that there wasnt an Internet in existence to post it on when it actually happened?

Just answering questions and clearing up dumb posts from Ute fans.
Were there too many words for you to understand. Should I turn it into a video and post it on youtube so you will actually almost understand what I said?

 

[TroutBum]

Just answering questions and clearing up dumb posts from Ute fans.
Were there too many words for you to understand. Should I turn it into a video and post it on youtube so you will actually almost understand what I said?

Don't waste your time.

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

2001 Luke Staley Doak Walker Award

Is this pretty much the crown jewel of BYU football in since 1991?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

^^ this guy doesn't have any jewels.

 

[Bronco70]

Okay, I think I finally have it figured out:

-BYU has a 28 year old Nat'l Championship, Utah does none.
-BYU's QB is vastly superior to Utah's QB, mostly because he is a "gamer", while Utah's QB will likely suffer a season ending injury taking a leak before the first game.
-BYU has multiple individual trophy winners, Utah has none.

Therefore: BYU is, irrefutably, a better football team than Utah.

Okay, got it. Thank goodness I didn't go put any money on Utah over BYU this year. I didn't realize how dire the sitch was.

 

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Is everyone from BYU socially awkward? Just found out one of my teachers is a grad student from BYU and the guy has to be the most awkward person I have ever had talk to a crowd.

 

[Qman]

Is everyone from BYU socially awkward? Just found out one of my teachers is a grad student from BYU and the guy has to be the most awkward person I have ever had talk to a crowd.

I think the socially awkward people are more likely to attend grad school at any school. And in my experience at BYU the majority of people were socially normal minus the social drinking.

 

[CONAN]

It's a different crowd. Lucky for me I was married when I went there. But the few social things I did there (study groups) were enough to convince me it's a different ballgame there. Everything seems geared toward marriage. I would say it's not a BYU thing, it's a white-collar LDS thing.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Okay, I think I finally have it figured out:

-BYU has a 28 year old Nat'l Championship, Utah does none.
-BYU's QB is vastly superior to Utah's QB, mostly because he is a "gamer", while Utah's QB will likely suffer a season ending injury taking a leak before the first game.
-BYU has multiple individual trophy winners, Utah has none.

Therefore: BYU is, irrefutably, a better football team than Utah.

Okay, got it. Thank goodness I didn't go put any money on Utah over BYU this year. I didn't realize how dire the sitch was.

I'm glad we stopped you before you placed your 401K down on the game.
$100 is a lot to lose when you have bad information.

By the way, there are a few other reasons you missed.
- BYU players are livin right on and off the field.
- Ute fans pour beer on opposing fans and parents.
- The whole Ute organization and tribe are classless.
- Pac12 stickers, need I say more.
- Those BYU videos are awesome, that guy in chains scares me.
- Ute players have no respect for the Haka.
- Utah is a research university, so they must suck at football.
- The UofU is now against the LDS Church as is seen by their acceptance into the anti LDS conference.
- BYU players are out for revenge and have now placed UofU logo's in their urinals.

If you bet on the Utes, don't go all in.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Not football related, but I figured it's as good a thread to bring it up as any:

I've got a buddy at work who's daughter attends BYU. About a year ago he told me there was a minor problem at BYU with some students going down to Vegas to get quickie marriges so they could have sex without breaking the honor code, then turning around and quickly annulling/divorcing and going on about their business. I found the story strange and not very believeable on a few levels, but the guy is LDS, and extremely pro-BYU so I couldn't really write it off as just a slanderous rumor either.

Urban legend? Silly rumor? Something that was actually happening? Can anybody please shed some light on this for me so I can finally sleep at night?

 

[asian_roger]

I'm glad we stopped you before you placed your 401K down on the game.
$100 is a lot to lose when you have bad information.

By the way, there are a few other reasons you missed.
- BYU players are livin right on and off the field. Shouldn't they be undefeated every year?
- A very small minority of Ute fans pour beer on opposing fans and parents. Fixed
- The whole Ute organization and tribe are classless. Why are you insulting Ute tribes?
- Pac12 stickers, need I say more. What is wrong with them?
- Those BYU videos are awesome, that guy in chains scares me. Why would you be scared of a Mormon?
- Ute players have no respect for the Haka. Prove it
- Utah is a research university, so they must suck at football. Byu is a religious university, so they must suck at everything?
- The UofU is now against the LDS Church as is seen by their acceptance into the anti LDS conference. So why are there a lot of LDS members here?
- BYU players are out for revenge and have now placed UofU logo's in their urinals. real classy

If you bet on the Utes, don't go all in.

Are you secretly Max Hall?

Haters gonna hate.

 

[UGLI baby]

I thought you were better than this Rog.

 

[CONAN]

 

[asian_roger]

I thought you were better than this Rog.

I couldn't just sit back and watch someone insult all Ute fans. I'm just flipping his statements