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Depends on you guys. We're puppet of USA. What would you like us to do?
 
No the ****in Turkish government that does not represent me or me alike is the puppet of the US. Not me. Not you.
 
addictionary said:
No the ****in Turkish government that does not represent me or me alike is the puppet of the US. Not me. Not you.
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I wish we were the majority, but sadly the majority does not even realize what the government's doing. They sold almost the entire country now they're ruining our foreign relationships.

I wouldn't be surprised if the idiots start a war against Syria.
 
Well that's what they're motivated for. You know, I once wrote the difference between two men Atatürk and Erdoğan. The 1st one lived his entire life in the lap of war, any kind of war, so when he lead the revolution, he stayed as far as away from the war, coz he knew what loss it would bring even if you won it. The 2nd one has not faced any kind of war in his entire life and sucking the society's reactions and playing with their feelings over war issues, running right towards to war. Ignorant and selfish and bigot piece of ****!
 
USA wants another puppet country, which will be unified Kurdish State on Northern Iraq Northern Syria. It's all about controlling the Oil and forming a buffer zone between Israel and Iran. Who gives a rat's a** to democracy?
 
I think most people suspected that already, but I'm sure the more public the admissions the more they will be used by the Hillary Clinton gang(doesn't she feel like NATO's point (wo)man these days?) to push their agenda. Let's be honest, it's a proxy war already. Who doesn't have fighting assets in there? The Syrian Army would've smashed the opposition in quick time if the place wasn't crawling with foreign mercenaries. Are Iran/Russia/whomever else is helping Syria the bad guys in this situation? It's not so clear cut to me right now because I don't think your everyday Syrians started it in the first place.

Russia, China, Iran, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Venezuela, Algeria, Iraq, Cuba, Belarus, etc. are lining up together trying to find alternatives to mass scale intervention. Something's going to happen soon for sure.
 
jazzyapma said:
USA wants another puppet country, which will be unified Kurdish State on Northern Iraq Northern Syria. It's all about controlling the Oil and forming a buffer zone between Israel and Iran. Who gives a rat's a** to democracy?
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True that.
 
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Duck Rodgers said:
I think most people suspected that already, but I'm sure the more public the admissions the more they will be used by the Hillary Clinton gang(doesn't she feel like NATO's point (wo)man these days?) to push their agenda. Let's be honest, it's a proxy war already. Who doesn't have fighting assets in there? The Syrian Army would've smashed the opposition in quick time if the place wasn't crawling with foreign mercenaries. Are Iran/Russia/whomever else is helping Syria the bad guys in this situation? It's not so clear cut to me right now because I don't think your everyday Syrians started it in the first place.

Russia, China, Iran, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Venezuela, Algeria, Iraq, Cuba, Belarus, etc. are lining up together trying to find alternatives to mass scale intervention. Something's going to happen soon for sure.
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That is the one that suprises me. I firgured there were all sorts of foreigners there on both sides. The public admission by a foreign country that they have troops on the ground there is pretty heavy in my opinion.

Do you think this could truly split the world into two camps?
Russia, China, Pakistan, Indonesia, N. Korea, Ecuador, Venezuela, Algeria, Iraq, Cuba...

U.S, Canada, Japan, S. Korea, Europe, Australia, Phillipines, Isreal, Saudi Arabia, Turkey...

Food for thought at least.

Edit: I guess you could say 3 camps and the third would be people who stay out of it like Mexico, Mongolia, Brazil, Africa...
 
Stoked said:
https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFBRE86H18C20120829?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

Turkey calling for Syrians to be protected in Syria. That means a military prescence and a no-fly zone...
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Turkey demands a buffer zone in the Syrian border. Protecting them in Syrian territory is one way to push it. Because 80.000 refugees including agents from many nations and rebel commanders have been staying in Turkey since the civil war started. Rebel soldiers pass the border and come back anytime they want. Some of them who are Sunni Muslim even threaten Alevists -a religious group who experienced terrible things in the past suffering from Sunni hatred- telling them that "the time will come for them too". That is an inside problem for the government who definitely are not fond of Alevists because they supposedly represent Sunni Islamist groups. So if they have a way to take the refugees back to Syrian territory, they will both have their buffer zone chance and they will relatively set the secure conditions for Alevists again.
 
addictionary said:
Turkey demands a buffer zone in the Syrian border. Protecting them in Syrian territory is one way to push it. Because 80.000 refugees including agents from many nations and rebel commanders have been staying in Turkey since the civil war started. Rebel soldiers pass the border and come back anytime they want. Some of them who are Sunni Muslim even threaten Alevists -a religious group who experienced terrible things in the past suffering from Sunni hatred- telling them that "the time will come for them too". That is an inside problem for the government who definitely are not fond of Alevists because they supposedly represent Sunni Islamist groups. So if they have a way to take the refugees back to Syrian territory, they will both have their buffer zone chance and they will relatively set the secure conditions for Alevists again.
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Oh I understand why. I was just saying that to create that buffer zone that would mean a military presence by someone (U.N. NATO, Turkey, U.S., France...) to enoforce that buffer zone.

Syria and Iran might see that as a direct military challenge. Easy to see how that can escalate into more than a civil war. Syria gov., Iran, Russia, China, Pakistan, Iraq on one side with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Isreal, NATO (including Turkey) on the other.
 
Turkey had never been a clear side selector in it's history, even back from the Ottoman era. Actually they made it the foreign policy to stay alive a few decades more in the Ottoman Empire's dying times. After our Liberty War, we've chosen the path of Western world even though Soviet Union helped us through it. Then insider bourgeois governments came to the power and made the state sit on Western big time states' lap. But these are the times that US controlled Islamists are in the power, and US supports the rebels in Syria (actually even creates them in the first place imo), and US want to end the campaign to destroy the Baas regime that lead Syria and Iraq, then they aid Israel in any case against their enemies, so yeah, it would probably be as you've said if a war happens. You might think including Iraq in the block of the US though. Southern Iraq is Iran influenced, Northern part is Kurd's territory even federal state as we know now, central Iraq government is in the spell of States so Iraq belongs pretty much to the US side.
 
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The reason I say Turket will side agaisnt the SYrian gov is because of Iran. I think TUrkey agrees with Saudi Arabia that Iran is a threat. Then there is the NATO tie which Turkey has already used for consultations about Syria when that plane was shot down.
 
I don't think Turkey realizes how Syrias the conflict is becoming.




































Teehee.
 
Dal, I do not even see a link to click. There is just a giant blank space between your first and last line of your post.
 
Stoked said:
Dal, I do not even see a link to click. There is just a giant blank space between your first and last line of your post.
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Was referring to the thread that I started in GD. I thought you feared that I was gonna get permabanned. But I won't :) At least, I hope not... :(
 
dalamon said:
Was referring to the thread that I started in GD. I thought you feared that I was gonna get permabanned. But I won't :) At least, I hope not... :(
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oh yeah... I took one look at the title and went no where near it. I'll check it out tonight.

Are you really leaving?
 
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