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This is how I know America is dead.

I do like what you have to say here, but I see the constitution for what it is.
A blueprint for the right of not becoming a slave.
The only thing that has changed from the daily life of a founder to now, is the technology factor, and the instant information factor.
The constitution lists how to keep a countries people free, with checks and balances of government.
The same checks and balances that have been eroded into agencies like the NSA, IRS, and TSA.
The same rights that we no longer have, in order to save face for the big bad president of the time..... and his cute little executive orders that control congress and the people in contrast.
 
TheSilencer1313 said:
I do like what you have to say here, but I see the constitution for what it is.
A blueprint for the right of not becoming a slave.
The only thing that has changed from the daily life of a founder to now, is the technology factor, and the instant information factor.
The constitution lists how to keep a countries people free, with checks and balances of government.
The same checks and balances that have been eroded into agencies like the NSA, IRS, and TSA.
The same rights that we no longer have, in order to save face for the big bad president of the time..... and his cute little executive orders that control congress and the people in contrast.
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Ok, I think I understand you a bit better now. I agree that certain aspects of the way our system operates can chip away incrementally at our 'freedoms,' but where I disagree is that I think these are largely minuscule in scope individually and pretty slight collectively. Plus I still think you're a bit paranoid and extreme, but what the hell?

BTW, what you doing up so late on this website?
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
Ok, I think I understand you a bit better now. I agree that certain aspects of the way our system operates can chip away incrementally at our 'freedoms,' but where I disagree is that I think these are largely minuscule in scope individually and pretty slight collectively. Plus I still think you're a bit paranoid and extreme, but what the hell?

BTW, what you doing up so late on this website?
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It has incrementally chipped away at our freedoms, and does everyday.

Am I really that extreme to read bills like the Patriot Act and NDAA, (where citizens can legally be tortured and imprisoned without a trail, or even assassinated) and point out what these bills actually say?

Is it that paranoid to pay attention to what's actually passed in congress/signed by the president, and comment about it a little bit?

I suppose I'm just completely nuts to believe that the injustices that happened during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina could never happen to any of us during any kind of national emergency.

And to answer your question, I had a couple days off from work this week and decided to stay up late and enjoy myself.
 
TheSilencer1313 said:
It has incrementally chipped away at our freedoms, and does everyday.

Am I really that extreme to read bills like the Patriot Act and NDAA, (where citizens can legally be tortured and imprisoned without a trail, or even assassinated) and point out what these bills actually say?

Is it that paranoid to pay attention to what's actually passed in congress/signed by the president, and comment about it a little bit?

I suppose I'm just completely nuts to believe that the injustices that happened during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina could never happen to any of us during any kind of national emergency.

And to answer your question, I had a couple days off from work this week and decided to stay up late and enjoy myself.
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You and I are in agreement about the Patriot Act, NSA spying, NDAA, etc. I think there's probably a lot more we'd agree on if we sat down and had a few beers.

I hope you are enjoying your days off.
 
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