Romney Fundraiser - Secret Taping

[candrew]

It wasn't president Obama who kicked me out of bed this morning. Clinton never woke me up for a 7:30 college class or held my hand while I worked till 1 am. Bush never reviewed my resume or let me use him as a job refrence, and when I got laid off after 911 he never called to tell me how sorry he was. Bush Sr. didn't come to my High School graduation, or fill in as a father figure when dad left us high and dry. Regan played no part in me getting my first job at age 8 so I could buy shoes for school. Carter didn't teach me to read or feed me. And Ford was didn't pull me out or diaper me. So just what in the hell do you expect from a president. He ain't your father or your mother and the only way a president or any other politician can 'give' you something is if he first takes it from somebody else.

None of these presidents taught you reading comprehension either.

 

[candrew]

I find it unsurprising. Of course, I'm a misanthrope who thinks most politicians are modern-day Barnums.

Which is why we are stuck with choices between jack offs like Romney and marginal leaders like Obama.

But that's another story.

 

[Beantown]

 

[Stoked]

Which is why we are stuck with choices between jack offs like Romney and non leaders like Obama.

But that's another story.

fixed

 

[Dr. Jones]

Would you have respected her for the other choice?

Maybe not as much, but would have been happy to help nonetheless.

 

[Beantown]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng

 

[Beantown]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EZQvSCGaJI

 

[Scat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EZQvSCGaJI

LOL

"It's important to destroy their sense of individualism while they're still young"

repped

 

[franklin]

And this is the part where the left-wingers also say that you 1%ers wouldn't be able to last a ****ing DAY if the tables were turned, and perhaps YOU are the 26 year old fleeing with your wife and two children to America.

I think you misunderstand the motivation & drive behind the super successful. Maybe they wouldn't succeed under the most trying circumstances inside a corrupt political regime, but they don't really have that to deal with north of the Mexican border.

You get here, and you realize that a) your Education doesn't transfer over, b) you can't go back to school, because you have no financial support, c) your kids will only be able to go to school if it means that you work 18 hours a day, 6 times a week for deca...
Believe me when I tell you that I myself, living in a province with 3 million people, with only a MEAGER handful of scholarships being dealt out (i was never offered a full-one, though I received some partials), would probably not be able to go to College if it weren't for the taxes that my country paid, or this 'net' that my country has used to help me succeed. And what a shame it would be, seeing as I damn-near was the Valedictorian of my High School graduating class.

A lot of immigrants to NYC have built their businesses from the ground up. That goes for all walks of life, and even more so for the Jews, who do it every damn place they migrate to. Jewish success has been linked to cultural support, which obviously isn't equal across migrant classes. Still, at the end of the day, starting a business & working your *** off is the real first stepping stone. Using that success to pay for college & see family members climb the Wall Street ladder comes after.

How much Protestant work ethic should they show to be worthy of help? How much should they promise to repay the debt that we'll so nicely give to them?

110% if able.
I think an implied contract of bettering ourselves & getting off the dole is a good enough promise.

Michelle Obama isn't running for anything. And if a statement like that turned you off enough for you not to vote for her husband, I don't have a problem with that. But stating a opinion about your own personal feelings growing up is not remotely the same as writing off half the country that you are trying to become the president of.

I don't see how the first lady writing off the entire country is much different as a candidate privately discussing campaign strategy that essentially demonizes half.

While I actually agree with Romney to a certain extent, I don't think all 47% of democrats are dependent on the government. Obviously he was swept up in the moment and made a dumb remark, but I will say this, I would pay more credence to Romney's economic stances if he were self-made. It's almost become a cliche' parable that rich people beget rich people. I really don't think talent is totally genetic, things like diligence, patience, and luck play into it, but despite this, wealth does seem to be generationally contiguous. I do think that wealth in many cases has become a closed system for certain families despite the outcry for a merit-based society.

I always enjoy your input on how the rich children you educate think & operate differently than the masses. I don't think recent class mobility studies fully support your thesis though. The wealthy might beget children who do okay for themselves, but they can also be prone to blowing daddy's money over time, which is an excellent redistributive mechanism.

A few ultra-wealthy US families have been the exception to this, & I want to inheritance tax the hell out of them.

 

[franklin]

And this is the part where the left-wingers also say that you 1%ers wouldn't be able to last a ****ing DAY if the tables were turned, and perhaps YOU are the 26 year old fleeing with your wife and two children to America. You get here, and you realize that a) your Education doesn't transfer over, b) you can't go back to school, because you have no financial support, c) your kids will only be able to go to school if it means that you work 18 hours a day, 6 times a week for decades, meaning you won't even have the time to properly parent them, and find out that by the time your son turns 18, he has dropped out of school and found solace in a gang, because their parents were too busy trying to be "productive citizens" by barely scraping by, trying to make whatever money they can in the absolute most difficult of circumstances, while not having the time to take care of their children in the process.

I grew up poor as **** and worked harder during the summer than many grown ups, so you'll have to excuse me for saying boo freaking hoo.

One summer I mowed 10 lawns once a week with a push mower plus my parents twice--many were 1/2 acre. I also had a paper route that took about 1.5 hours every single day, worked in a local orchard for $2/hour, and spent many Saturdays cutting wood to keep warm in the winter. The cars broke down a lot & my father needed help fixing them. We worked a lot.

I don't look back on that and wish I had it any other way. Sure, it would have been nice to value education higher than I did but the value my family placed on hard work has payed off just as much if not more so.

 

[northeast]

I'll bet about as high a % of those leaning Republican as Democrat don't pay any Federal Income taxes, which makes Romney a liar. show us those tax returns Mitt!

 

[Stoked]

I'll bet about as high a % of those leaning Republican as Democrat don't pay any Federal Income taxes, which makes Romney a liar. show us those tax returns Mitt!

Thank God you came along when you did. I think that dead horse was about to move. Good looking out.