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Dumb action at it's finest, first half is so-so(even though the cameos were pretty sweet), second half is just all awesome action sequences
 
Sirkickyass said:
Impossible. Tarantino's version of the film would be almost unrecognizable from its current state. You're basically asking me to imagine if Back to the Future was directed by Ingmar Bergman.

I already threw out in the Inception thread that I think the film would have been greatly improved had it been directed by Tarsem Singh, but that has more to do with his directorial style already being proven to be amenable to dream like fantasies and impossible geometry.
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I obviously was not asking you to imagine the film as directed by QT. It was a lead.

I don't think I'm hating on the film at all. I even went out of my way to compliment Cotillard.

I think it's a good heist movie and it's not so great beyond that. I thought it was about as good as something like Ocean's Eleven or the Italian Job (Marky Mark edition). Those are pretty good movies, but they're not anywhere near the best of all time conversation that Inception has been put in.

I wrote a lot of more specific criticisms because I thought that's what safetydan was asking for. I note you have no real response to those criticisms.
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Your "compliment" was of Cotillard, not the film. Vast difference. That is, unless you consider saying it was a "success" as far as heist movies go and comparing it to Ocean's Eleven and Wahlberg's The Italian Job a compliment. Pretty back-handed. Even for you.

Regarding my lack of response to your criticisms, I wasn't avoiding them. I simply addressed the overall tone to your message. However, regarding your points, I'll say this. I strongly agree with you on Page's name and the "heavy-handed' symbolism. For a director of his caliber and experience to be that thin is ****ing weak.

Regarding the sound to the movie, I agree in many ways and in others, not so much. The aggressive and just flat-out loud volume of the music was a bit much at points. Upon my first viewing I couldn't even hear what the **** Watanabe was saying as he brushed his face on his shag rug. I'll agree with it being relentless as well. However, that's not necessarily a bad thing. For me, it was effective overall, though it could have been tuned down here or there.


I literally laughed out loud very hard. I sincerely hope that was a joke.
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I was not saying the movie was very Citizen Kane-ish. I said that scene was.

CK: Insanely rich newspaper magnate dies, uttering his last word "Rosebud," which we later find out was his sled from his childhood, essentially the last time he was truly happy. He's full of regret, having been consumed by greed and power, and was stripped of his innocence and the love of family and the sled is symbolic of such.

I: Insanely rich energy tycoon dies, uttering his last word "disappointment." His son later discovers (though it's really all just a false seedling) that his father wants him to live his own life and leaves him his most valuable asset to tell him such, his childhood paper wind-wheel. His father did not want him to grow up like Charles Foster Kane consumed by his own greed and drive for power. This was the deceased telling Cillian Murphy's character such. Like Charles Foster Kane, his son had not been happy since his childhood, before his mom died, and the toy/fan best embodied that innocence he had lost. A time when his whole life still lay out ahead of him for him to live.

While the two do not identically parallel one another, the same themes are there.
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And yes, I don't have a ****ing clue how to do multi-quotes.
 
That is, unless you consider saying it was a "success" as far as heist movies go and comparing it to Ocean's Eleven and Wahlberg's The Italian Job a compliment. Pretty back-handed. Even for you.
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At a certain point the issue becomes whether I'm complimenting it "enough." I'm saying it was an above average film and good in particular for its genre. I don't think I will believe it was among the best films of the year come December, although this year isn't exactly showing strong competition so far. I'm not certain you can ask for more from me, but I think I'm being quite fair in saying that I'm not trashing the film just to trash it. I purposely waited a month so I would be less grumpy and wouldn't be subject to a million people telling me it was awesome the second I walked out of the theater. I saw it under the best possible circumstances on a very high quality screen that was a True-IMAX size and I had premium seating. I went out of my way to make sure I had a good experience and wouldn't be grumpy just to be grumpy about the movie.

I was not saying the movie was very Citizen Kane-ish. I said that scene was.
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Disagree. Thematically they're very different. Rosebud is about a life that, though extraordinary, was in some sense wasted. It ends up being the most important item out of a vast storehouse of all the most important and expensive treasures from Europe imaginable. It is the last relic of a boyhood home that no longer exists, and it is destroyed in a fire without anyone knowing its subjective value. There is nothing cathartic about finding that sled.

The pinwheel is a catharsis by design, and explicitly so. I'm not sure there's another object in the entire movie that could have been in its place given that its the only object that I can think of that's identifiable to that relationship. The pinwheel scene strikes me as far more Spielbergian to be honest. It wouldn't surprise me if the entire dream sequence was structured around creating that scene during the writing process.

FWIW: I think the time dilation in Inception was truly pretty unique, and Nolan should get some credit for that. I will say I think he might have taken it too far by having at least one hour of the film occur in the time between the van hitting the rail and the van hitting the water.

Have you seen the hilarious article charging that the plot of Inception is stolen from a Scrooge McDuck comic?

https://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/blinkuldhc/news/?a=21055
 
Sirkickyass said:
At a certain point the issue becomes whether I'm complimenting it "enough." I'm saying it was an above average film and good in particular for its genre. I don't think I will believe it was among the best films of the year come December, although this year isn't exactly showing strong competition so far. I'm not certain you can ask for more from me, but I think I'm being quite fair in saying that I'm not trashing the film just to trash it. I purposely waited a month so I would be less grumpy and wouldn't be subject to a million people telling me it was awesome the second I walked out of the theater. I saw it under the best possible circumstances on a very high quality screen that was a True-IMAX size and I had premium seating. I went out of my way to make sure I had a good experience and wouldn't be grumpy just to be grumpy about the movie.



Disagree. Thematically they're very different. Rosebud is about a life that, though extraordinary, was in some sense wasted. It ends up being the most important item out of a vast storehouse of all the most important and expensive treasures from Europe imaginable. It is the last relic of a boyhood home that no longer exists, and it is destroyed in a fire without anyone knowing its subjective value. There is nothing cathartic about finding that sled.

The pinwheel is a catharsis by design, and explicitly so. I'm not sure there's another object in the entire movie that could have been in its place given that its the only object that I can think of that's identifiable to that relationship. The pinwheel scene strikes me as far more Spielbergian to be honest. It wouldn't surprise me if the entire dream sequence was structured around creating that scene during the writing process.

FWIW: I think the time dilation in Inception was truly pretty unique, and Nolan should get some credit for that. I will say I think he might have taken it too far by having at least one hour of the film occur in the time between the van hitting the rail and the van hitting the water.

Have you seen the hilarious article charging that the plot of Inception is stolen from a Scrooge McDuck comic?

https://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/blinkuldhc/news/?a=21055
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1. Fair enough.
2. IMO, the themes are very, very similar. Their roots are different. The mood and their effect (as you state) is different. And the photograph is very Spielbergian, very Americana, good call. But their themes are extremely similar imo. I'd actually take it a step further and say I'd be shocked if Nolan didn't think of CK when developing this specific component to the movie. It would be tough not to.
3. From the little I saw on TMZ one night (I know, I know), the movie does sort of eerily resemble the cartoon. I'm not saying Nolan stole the idea but ****, the concept, the fire burning down his estate much like Watanabe's digs came crashing down, the kick via the chair. Pretty weird. ****in' Duck Tales. Wu-ooo-oo!!
 
Anyone seen "Inglorious ********"? It looks very entertaining and it's on demand now so I can watch it for free but, 156 minutes...damn, that's long.

Edit: wow, didn't think it would blank out that word esp considering it's intentionally misspelled in the title of the movie but, I'm sure most if not all know what i'm referring to.
 
AtheistPreacher said:
It was good... only problem was that it was all downhill after the opening scene. Bad form to put the best part of the movie first.
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I've seen other people say this, but I disagree.

I strongly prefer the scene where they meet Bridget Von Hammersmark in the basement bar and a fair number of other Christoph Walz sequences.

I actually think the opening scene drags a bit.
 
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was recommended this movie after watched Old Boy. It's a romantic vampire movie, not exactly my type of movie, but it was a good movie nonetheless.
 
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Tried watching this for the second time. I watched it in high school and thought maybe I would appreciate it more now in my mid 20s. Apparently I'm not smart enough to understand why this movie is generally considered the greatest of all time. Maybe Kicky can explain it to me.
 
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KrazeeEyezKilla said:
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Love.

The final shot sequence is, IMO, one of the most beautiful ever filmed. I sincerely hope you had the privilege of seeing it in Blu-Ray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4whXHjXysw&feature=related

And that's before we get into the Welles' reveal in the doorway and the sewer chase sequences.

Tremendous admiration for the Third Man.
 
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