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Why does Corbin play Marvin Williams over Carroll?

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I can't figure out a logical reason. Williams has had ample time to showcase what he's capable of in the league, as well as on the Jazz through the first 30 or so games. What he's shown is the capability of having a productive 10 minutes once every five or six games, and nothing else. Carroll should be playing over him. In fact, Williams getting any PT is counterproductive to the success of this team in the immediate future and long term.

Tyrone Corbin should donate his salary so tickets are cheaper for one game. He has embarrassed himself as a coach and every second he remains our coach is a second too long.
 
It's one of the many mysteries of Tyrone.

As I said in another thread. He can jerk around, and move Hayward Burks and Carroll......why does Marvin get a free pass?
 
I hope we manage to trade Marv just so we're forced to reupp Demarre. Yeah he's limited but... so is Marv rofl.
 
Too bad we don't have a really pretty good SF that could start on the bench yet somehow consume enough minutes so Demarre didn't have to play more than 25 if he started. Too bad.
 
He's miles ahead of Marvin. Marvin's defense is vastly overrated here. Carroll's man to man defense isn't great, but he
just makes plays all over the court. Marvin is a ****ing ghost out there.
 
KOC is prolly forcing him to play marvin because he is embarrased of trading for him and wants him to succeed really really bad prolly
 
Sneakers said:
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I guess this post was a little too "trolly" for Franklin... I was due for some neg rep from that guy.

What I *meant* to say is that you point to a couple knickknack fouls against Carroll, I'll point to going-on months of invisibility, ineptitude and utter non-contribution from Marv and almost regular positive contribution from Carroll. This is in spite of Marv's contractually guaranteed (I can only presume) starting spot and Carroll's on and off again doghouse status. And I loved Marv at the start of the season... search my posts, its true. But he is the new Raja Bell. You cannot justify the minutes he is getting right now.
 
Sneakers said:
I guess this post was a little too "trolly" for Franklin... I was due for some neg rep from that guy.

What I *meant* to say is that you point to a couple knickknack fouls against Carroll, I'll point to going-on months of invisibility, ineptitude and utter non-contribution from Marv and almost regular positive contribution from Carroll. This is in spite of Marv's contractually guaranteed (I can only presume) starting spot and Carroll's on and off again doghouse status. And I loved Marv at the start of the season... search my posts, its true. But he is the new Raja Bell. You cannot justify the minutes he is getting right now.
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Carrolle's stupid fouls are the reason Marvin got 36 minutes today.
I'm not trying to argue whether or not Marvin or Carrolle deserve to play, I'm just saying that that's why Marvin got 36 minutes.


Look, I've said what I've wanted to say about Marvin. He's not great at all, but he's much better than what we've had (CJ, Howard, Bell, etc.).
He's a classic example of if you don't try, you don't fail. He doesn't make stupid mistake and the same time, looks like he's not contributing.

Contrast is Carrolle who tries really hard, but he also fails. He misses rotations and gambles on defense to make the hustle play. He does amazing things but equally does stupid things and this is what an energy guy does.

And those knick knack fouls are stupid, he's not supposed to be trying to steal the ball when he's defending a triple-threat. All the offensive player has to do is swing his arms and bam!, that's a 2 shot foul. Unnecessary fouling is a stupid thing to do on defense and he can't be out there using all 6 of his fouls. He's going to get the other team shooting bonus free throws all game.
 
Weezur said:
Carrolle's stupid fouls are the reason Marvin got 36 minutes today.
I'm not trying to argue whether or not Marvin or Carrolle deserve to play, I'm just saying that that's why Marvin got 36 minutes.


Look, I've said what I've wanted to say about Marvin. He's not great at all, but he's much better than what we've had (CJ, Howard, Bell, etc.).
He's a classic example of if you don't try, you don't fail. He doesn't make stupid mistake and the same time, looks like he's not contributing.

Contrast is Carrolle who tries really hard, but he also fails. He misses rotations and gambles on defense to make the hustle play. He does amazing things but equally does stupid things and this is what an energy guy does.
And those knick knack fouls are stupid, he's not supposed to be trying to steal the ball when he's defending a triple-threat. All the offensive player has to do is swing his arms and bam!, that's a 2 shot foul.
Fouling is a terrible thing to do on defense and he can't be out there using all 6 of his fouls. He's going to get the other team shooting bonus free throws all game.
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Well first of all this thread was created when tonight's game was in its infancy, so it wasn't directed specifically at tonight in anyway (other than the first 5 minutes).

If Marvin's contribution to the team is "not trying" then I'm sorry that is not enough. He does nothing. But at least in doing nothing he isn't doing a negative something? That just ain't gonna cut it man.
 
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