Will reps work?
Good - decent players picked 14th pick and above
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Will reps work?
Hotdog
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I think we all came to that comparison on our own.
False.
Hotdog
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Well I did with out you, so....
Its really not that difficult to make the connection.
I would rather have CJ Mc for the Jazz. To each their own.
Those assist #'s are misleading. Lehigh runs a set to free him up for a jumpshot literally every possession. He's their #1, #2, and #3 option.
He is not great in pick and roll situations. That is true, and is probably his biggest knock.
Having said that, I think he's a great value anywhere after #7. He's been my guy in this draft (of our realistic targets) and I wouldn't mind a bit seeing us package both picks to move up to the 10-12 range to get him.
I think once he's playing with four other guys who can score (i.e., doesn't need to average 30 ppg for his team to win) his PG skills will continue to evolve. Meanwhile, his ability to create his own offense and his shooting ability will be a huge plus. He's also carried that team for 3+ seasons has risen to the occasion on the big stage many times. I think he could be an 8-10 year starting PG on a championship-caliber team.
McCollum might be really good, but call me crazy for having quite a bit of a stronger preference for the younger kid truly leading a major program in the best conference in the country to one of the best records in college basketball and doing it with class and style. I think of it as your point is the first handle the ball, so he'd better be looking for and able to get the ball to others. If the goal of the PG is to score primarily, then he had better be god damn dynamite because no other position doing that could be as damaging to what their team does as a team.
I don't know a lot about McCollum, but he doesn't jump off the page or screen as pass-first.
I don't know a lot about McCollum, but he doesn't jump off the page or screen as pass-first.
I have the exact same concerns and they're well documented. All I am saying is that this is a weak draft and at #17 CJ could be a great value as opposed to other choices available.
Why is everyone stuck the 'fact' that we need a pass first point guard? We need good players. At the 17th pick you are just trying get someone who can play. McCollum can shoot. He is a good defensive player and rebounder. If he is a combo guard off the bench great. If he can evolve into a better passer even better.
Because there's only one ball? Because if the guy who handles it first isn't looking to share it then it doesn't move very much?
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And he has mad hops i think.... at least that was what stood out in his highlight video for me.
HipHopAnonymous
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You called CJ Miles a decent player.
Also Tom Brady was a 6th round pick.
Also Tom Brady was a 6th round pick.
Doubt it. If you don't have the vision, you don't have the vision. You'd draft him to shoot and hopes he turns into Stephen Curry.
Also: If you don't think we need a pass first PG - go look at the 2 games that Tinsley sat out and we were left with Watson/Burks running the offense. It wasn't pretty to watch. A lot of last minute chucking and bailouts.
So don't play him at point guard if never learns how to pass. You have to draft him because as a 4 year college player and you think as a scorer he is good enough to play.
Still doesn't answer the question "why we need a pass first point guard?"
The Heat don't have a pass first point guard. Neither do the Thunder. I don't think anyone sees Tony Parker as pass first point guard. George Hill in Indiana is not a pass first point guard. Nor is Ty Lawson in Denver.
Most the best teams in league find a way to succeed with out a traditional point guard. Maybe a pass-first point guard isn't required to be good.
But they do have LeBron...