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I want Patterson or Monroe. One of the two will probably be there at 9. If not, take Whiteside and hope he's decent.
 
I quite like Patterson too, but I fear the need for a defensive presence in the middle takes precedence.
 
I know that Hollinger's stuff can at times be "out there," but he has been doing a projected NBA success report based on his numbers since 2002 (Draft Rater). A lot of it has been pretty accurate. He has Monroe listed at number 4 in the draft for NBA potential behind Cousins, Turner, and Wall. Cole Aldrich is 36 according to his numbers. Food for thought.
 
What do you guys think of Jerone Jordan as a second rounder? His stats looked pretty impressive, but I have never seen him play.

Jerome Jordan

C
23 years old
7-0 / 251 lbs
Tulsa
2009-10 STATS
PPG
15.4
RPG
9.1 APG
1.3 FG%
.549 BPG
2.3

NOTABLES:
- In a 90-70 win over Central Florida he put up 21 points, 11 rebounds 4 assists, and 4 blocks.
- Shot 8-9 FG enroute to a 23 point, 12 rebound performance versus Kentucky State
 
DutchJazzer said:
THE DARFT thread:D
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I already threw down a DARFT dutchie. I'm afraid I have won the internetz.

Patterson is a good choice if we are looking for a Booze replacement. He needs better rebounding IQ, but he is very mature and was one of the more civil characters on the KU team.

Saw him play in Huntington, and he was a beast among the kids there. But of course, it's West Virginia.
 
Uh, we have to draft a center, we already have Milsap and AK for PF. It has been proven we can't win without one, but more importantly this will be our only chance to get one for a long time.
That leaves Aldrich and Whiteside, take your pick, because I'm pretty sure they are 1 and 2 on KOC's list of realistic choices.
Aldrich is the safe pick, he should have no problems blocking 2-3 shots a game with that 9'3" wing span. I dont see him ever averaging over 12 points a game though.
Whiteside is the risky pick. His amazing wingspan and good leaping ability could have him matching Camby type block numbers (3-4). He also has more offensive potential than Aldrich. However, if he's a head case and lazy the NBA will eat him alive.
 
billyshelby said:
Not a shot blocker at all, which is a bigger issue.
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1.5 in college, in the Big East, which doesn't scream "not a shot blocker at all." Not much of one, maybe. BPG isn't an indicator of post defense, though. What I've read, a weakness is interior post D, which indeed is a problem.

Seems like if the mind is willing, then learning post D is easier than all the other stuff he currently can do.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
1.5 in college, in the Big East, which doesn't scream "not a shot blocker at all." Not much of one, maybe. BPG isn't an indicator of post defense, though. What I've read, a weakness is interior post D, which indeed is a problem.

Seems like if the mind is willing, then learning post D is easier than all the other stuff he currently can do.
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1.5 blocks per 35 minutes. There were 75 guys who had more blocked shots last season than Monroe regardless of height, position, or minutes. I can't find blocks per minute, but you can bet it's a lot worse than 75th. There's not way around it. The guy doesn't block shots. All I want to know is why.
 
I hope we trade up or package the pick for a veteran. I'm not crazy about anyone at 9. Patterson is proven and had three good years against legit competition. That's why I would draft him. If we draft Davis, I will scream. And whomever we draft must be a good defender and not undersized.
 
billyshelby said:
1.5 blocks per 35 minutes. There were 75 guys who had more blocked shots last season than Monroe regardless of height, position, or minutes. I can't find blocks per minute, but you can bet it's a lot worse than 75th. There's not way around it. The guy doesn't block shots. All I want to know is why.
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Fair enough. Another thing I saw was that the offensive system he played in really affected how his offensive game looked, both for the good and the bad. I wonder if there was a defensive scheme that did likewise. He's not terribly athletic, so maybe he was asked to keep his feet on the floor and keep his hands up? I wish there were some defensive highlights to look at.


Oh, and looking it was 1.5 per 34 minutes, not 35. :p
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Fair enough. Another thing I saw was that the offensive system he played in really affected how his offensive game looked, both for the good and the bad. I wonder if there was a defensive scheme that did likewise. He's not terribly athletic, so maybe he was asked to keep his feet on the floor and keep his hands up? I wish there were some defensive highlights to look at.


Oh, and looking it was 1.5 per 34 minutes, not 35. :p
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He doesn't block shots because is a an average athlete without long arms. His standing reach is 9'0.5". Boozer's is 9'0". This is despite the fact that Monroe is two inches taller than boozer.
 
Interesting article on Whiteside and Orton.

https://www.nbadraft.net/hassan-whitesidedaniel-orton-workout

Seems like Whiteside has a chance to be really good defensively. Seems to want to play defense. One thing caught my eye from an analyst.

He's like a big kid and lacks maturity, so it will be important that he lands in a good situation where he feels comfortable and can be brought along without losing his confidence. We got the sense that he's a good kid, still very naive about being a professional athlete, but seems to have his head on straight in order to deal with the temptations and distractions that accompany being an NBA player.
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Maybe not a good fit in Utah, then?
 
I am officially off of the Whiteside bandwagon. Maybe if we didn't need a center immediately, but we need someone that can plan now not 3 years from now. That is what we have the Europeans overseas for.
 
Yeah, the more I look at the possibilities at #9 is, the more I see how much of a crap shoot it really will be. I've no doubt that there be at least one, maybe two really good players that are going to be picked 7-12. Almost a guess to which ones it would be.
 
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