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Who starts at 4??

I just dont think we are utillizing AK's great defense when he's stuck out on the perimeter. He could be the best help defender in the league, but if he's 20 feet away from the drive its real hard to help.
 
unluckyseventeen said:
This won't be an issue because they will both start. It'll be Deron, CJ, AK, Millsap, Jefferson.
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While I agree CJ will likely start at the 2, I think Raja will be the closer.
 
honz said:
The only reason that lineup is used is if we have injury problems or foul trouble in a game. If a midget is gonna play SG, it will be Price.
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You are a dummy.Im serious. I think you have no ball iq. im dead serious. Didnt dwill play some 2 huis rookie year? also he played with dee in college and that was fine. Dwill guardds the opposing 2 but plays pg in offense. You will see this lineup when play teams like denver who plays both lawson and billups at same time, but of course if the jazz do this they are dumb in your mind cuz they are playingmidgets.lol..how tall are you? Maybe i should call you a midget cuz your probally smaller then me.Clown
 
sportsnut1232 said:
Do you realize that Bell is probably the best shooter on our team? I would start Bell to set the tone on defense but also for his shooting and toughness. We need to intimidate the opposition from the start, and Bell is our man when it comes to that.

I do like your point about keeping Bell fresh. I think this applies to AK as well. We need both of them to be in great shape come playoff time. I guess we just have to hope CJ has improved and Hayward is ready to contribute 15 quality minutes.
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Well, historically Bell has been a better 3-point shooter, but Bell's and Miles' regular-season career FG% is the same.

To your point, the more important thing is to have at least one defender on the floor at all times, and Sloan has not shown to focus on making sure a starting wing is on the floor at all times, so the best way to increase the chances of this is to bring a defense-oriented player off the bench. The best choice would be Bell. The biggest objective here is to not have CJ and Hayward on the court much at the same time (unless they somehow prove to be able to hold their own together on both ends of the floor, which would be in stark contrast to Miles + Korver in previous years). Keeping Bell fresh for the 4th quarter is perhaps as important a reason.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
You are a dummy.Im serious. I think you have no ball iq. im dead serious. Didnt dwill play some 2 huis rookie year? also he played with dee in college and that was fine. Dwill guardds the opposing 2 but plays pg in offense. You will see this lineup when play teams like denver who plays both lawson and billups at same time, but of course if the jazz do this they are dumb in your mind cuz they are playingmidgets.lol..how tall are you? Maybe i should call you a midget cuz your probally smaller then me.Clown
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"You are a dummy.Im serious." You really know how to sell it.

Yeah, because that Derek-Fisher-at-SG experiment worked out real well, didn't it?

Besides, Price hasn't particularly distinguished himself at the 2, anyway; 82 games has him playing worse at SG--and that's taking into account that Sloan was selectively playing Price at SG when hopefully he would be successful (or when there was absolutely no other option).
https://www.82games.com/0910/09UTA4.HTM#bypos

The only time to play two PGs is when the height matchup isn't too damaging. It is possible that DW can handle SGs 2 or 3 inches taller OK, but I am not convinced that such a setup is superior than having Bell or AK or CJ or Honzward play the other backcourt position alongside D-Will--or even a backup--in most cases.
 
InGameStrategy said:
"You are a dummy.Im serious." You really know how to sell it.

Yeah, because that Derek-Fisher-at-SG experiment worked out real well, didn't it?

Besides, Price hasn't particularly distinguished himself at the 2, anyway; 82 games has him playing worse at SG--and that's taking into account that Sloan was selectively playing Price at SG when hopefully he would be successful (or when there was absolutely no other option).
https://www.82games.com/0910/09UTA4.HTM#bypos

The only time to play two PGs is when the height matchup isn't too damaging. It is possible that DW can handle SGs 2 or 3 inches taller OK, but I am not convinced that such a setup is superior than having Bell or AK or CJ or Honzward play the other backcourt position alongside D-Will--or even a backup--in most cases.
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I like the idea of giving Price a few minutes at the 2 due to his defense. As far as Dwill at the 2, I like the idea if Watson running the point. That said, I would only do this in situations where we are really struggling to score.
 
colton said:
That looks about right to me. The one thing I would add, is that I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry go with a Deron-Watson lineup every once in a while. That would mean that either Deron or Watson should have some minutes at SG.
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Agree. The minutes I gave to Price at SG could very well go to Deron, with Watson getting more time at PG. Deron and Maynor played together quite a bit before the trade. In fact, IINM, Deron said he didn't mind playing off the ball a little bit. It allowed him to score more and not have to work so hard bringing the ball up. Watson/Deron is probably the best 2-PG combo, but Sloan will probably want to get Price some minutes.

And UB...I also didn't account for injuries. Few players go all 82 games, so those average mins. will probably go up a bit for everyone - until Memo returns. Then Okur either gets all of the Elson/Fes minutes, or AK moves back to a full-time SF. The development of Hayward and Evans wlll factor into that. My guess is Deron misses 4 games, AK 15, Millsap 2 and CJ 6. Raja and Big Al will play all 82. Now I need to grab my abacus and see what that does to the avg mins/per game.
 
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Hotttnickkk said:
Boy oh boy - would TwinTowers have something to say about this one... LOL
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Well, the article also says "probable starter, Deron Williams."
Yes, Sloan says the starters haven't been decided, but do you really think Earl Watson has a chance at unseating Deron. Or Elson or Fes will start ahead of Jefferson? Millsap will start at the 4. Everything that's been said to this point, about him finally getting a shot, expandding his role, etc. That doesn't point to sitting on the bench behind AK. I'd say there's maybe a 5% chance AK starts at the 4, with CJ and Raja at the wing spots.
 
Since none of us get a vote and it's only for fun, here's mine.

WITH everyone healthy;

Deron
Raja
AK
Okur
AJ

While Okur is out;

Deron
Raja
AK
Sap
AJ
 
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