Evolution discussion

[MVP]

... Machines left to themselves decay and inanimate matter tends downward, not upward! Time produces disintegration, erodes cliffs and even granite rock. It is destructive, not constructive!

We talking living beings. You think humans now are more primitive then 50.000 years ago for example?

 

[MVP]

In the meantime, why don't you explain how man-made tools were discovered in pristine and insulated Tertiary rock layers in California.
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It is not true. There was no such discovery, simple explanation. HOAX.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

This has same value as this:

I hope you get my point.

Your point is what? You think those photos are all homogeneous fakes?

And who says Credo's research has no value? You?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

It is not true. There was no such discovery, simple explanation. HOAX.

???? No hoax. Or is anything that refutes Darwin a hoax now?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I know what Tertiary is. What I am saying that in 1860 Ribeiro had no chance to prove that what he found was actually 20mil year old or 200.000 year old. Technology was not there. As I said it would be enough to find a single fossil and prove that it is not fitting into time line of it's previous discoveries to shatter evolution theory. Not a single was found. You would think country like USA where 60% of population reject evolution would publish such finding if it would be true to support creationism and God's will? Where is it? Show me hominid remains from Jurassic for example. Or any reptile from Cambrian. Or birds from Devon. Come on at least single one would be found if it would be true!?

The tools were determined to be man made and were sealed in Tertiary rock. From this you can conclude that they are at least the same age as the rock layer. There is no other reasonable explanation as to how they got there.

 

[GVC]

And they would be?

Jesus?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

And they would be?

All of the postings I made on the prior page. I can go get more.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Reading up on Cremo.

He also believes there's a worldwide scientific community effort to suppress the already gathered evidence in the paranormal AND Bigfoot/Yeti, etc.

In my opinion, there is even today quite a lot of evidence for paranormal phenomena. Unfortunately, this evidence tends to be suppressed in the intellectual centers of society by the same process of knowledge filtration that tends to suppress physical evidence that contradicts general evolutionary ideas.

The other criticisms brought by the scientific community is that he rejects modern data that refutes the conclusions on alleged artifacts found in the 1800s that no longer exist.

 

[MVP]

This is how scientist review Cremo's Forbidden Archeology

Tom Morrow of the National Center for Science Education noted that "FA devotes 400 pages to analyzing anomalous stone tools depicted in obscure literature over the past 150 years. Worse, these specimens no longer exist"

"On the whole, the work of recent palaeoanthropologists - in terms of both recent finds and reviews of current theory - is omitted from the discussion. FA's presentation means that the reader is not offered a thorough review of the relevant evidence, despite the book's great length...To attempt to resurrect an old paradigm the way they do, by analyzing outmoded scientific texts, is one of the recognized marks of 'pseudo-science'

Again, everybody can chose what to believe, real science or Krisna worshiping "researcher".

 

[Darkwing Duck]

What was the date given for the tools in tertiary rock? Tertiary period is too broad for dating techniques.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Coincidentally, this kind of research is why archaeological digs of today are organized in SOOOOOOOOOO much detail. You can't touch ANYTHING until the site has been gridded. I can't remember all the details that go into making sure there's no chance of contamination of a site, particularly for dating procedures.

 

[MVP]

The tools were determined to be man made and were sealed in Tertiary rock. From this you can conclude that they are at least the same age as the rock layer. There is no other reasonable explanation as to how they got there.

There is no proof for that unfortunately. Tell me what dating methods Ribeiro used to prove that it is Tertiary rock. You missing my point. If somebody like that would have been discovered in 1860 without any modern technology and carbon or radioactive dating don't you think findings like that would be repeated at least SINGLE time in our time? All archeologists would be digging whole Portugal now looking for that. But since every sane scientist knows it is fake nobody ever cared to do it.