So I want to talk about the Mormons

[bigb]

This is what some of you are saying essentially.

"I don't hate Mormons, I just think the LDS faith is stupid and deserves ridicule"

I'm not getting that at all. What I'm understanding is this:
"I don't hate Mormons. In fact, I have family and friends who are Mormons. What I hate is the fact that since it is the main religion in this state, some of their rules have been passed into law and I am forced to obey them."
To a certain extent, I agree with them. Granted, I follow the laws of the Mormon church, so the governmental laws don't affect me anyway, but I can certainly understand their point of view.

 

[colton]

Once?

How long should that endeavor take? What's a reasonable amount of time to expect one person to investigate your faith without any (significant) confirmation of its truthfulness? Should one ignore ALL other faiths and only seek the truth from the Mormons for their whole lives, even when said search bares no fruit? How does one decide how to allocate their gods-finding quest among all the world's religion?

I certainly can't make that decision for someone else. But I believe just about all religions have some portion of the truth, so it's not an all-or-nothing thing.

If this decision is so random/arbitrary, doesn't it serve as a testament that whichever god/gods made this their plan is/are poor planners/highly inefficient?

Not following you at all. Which decision?

And that's the crux of the whole "one true church"/organized religion thing for me. If this is what God had in mind, he's not terribly bright, and certainly not worthy of worship.

Still not following you. If what is what God had in mind?

I'm all for seeking truth, be it "objective", "spiritual", what have you. Falling in line with a bureaucratic, dogmatic religion seems to run counter to that objective.

And for the third time, not following you--sorry. If there is a truth about God, then wouldn't there necessarily be dogma? And why wouldn't/couldn't God use a bureaucracy to help implement His desires?

 

[MoreFeasts]

I agree. I've stopped reading the SL Tribune website for anything other than sports for the same reason. Its comment sections after articles are cesspools and I'm continually shocked that they tolerate that kind of crap on their site. I've lived literally across the country, from East Coast to West Coast and in between, and I've never seen as much hatred for the Mormons as I have here in Utah.

why would there be hatred for Mormons elsewhere? They have little presence in the rest of the country, and the minority out there will blend in pretty well.

 

[Julie Greengiant]

According to the Wikipedia article, here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Freemasonry, yes their father was a Freemason. "The father, Joseph Smith, Sr., was a documented member in upstate New York. He was raised to the degree of Master Mason on May 7, 1818 in Ontario Lodge No. 23 of Canandaigua, New York."

But claiming that Hyrum wrote the Book of Mormon doesn't explain anything in my opinion. It maintains all of the same questions about how an ignorant farmer could produce such a document. And it adds new questions--why would Hyrum do this? Why would he continue to support his brother (younger brother, even) Joseph as a prophet for his whole life, to such an extent that he would even die with him? Plus, I don't even think Hyrum was around the whole time as the Book of Mormon was being written down on paper.

I don't mean that he wrote it just that he was the connection

 

[Stoked]

I would like to know why Mormons think those that disagree or even dislike the LDS faith think that they hate or dislike Mormons.

Mormons have a lot in common with homosexuals in our society. Maybe one day they'll realize it.

Probably for the same reasons that homosexuals, or any other group with a history of persecution, think that anything other than total acceptance means hatred.

 

[Stoked]

False equivalence. Homos are actually persecuted where many Mormons have that good old Christian we are persecuted for being righteous Christians complex. The Catholics I know have all gotten over that due to sheer population numbers, thank goodness. They also tend to be even more overbearing on the religious side of things IMO. Some days at work are loooooong listening to that end of the world is nigh at and bull ****.

Mormons have and do face persecution. I find it a valid comparison. Mormons have been where homosexuals are.

 

[Stoked]

why would there be hatred for Mormons elsewhere? They have little presence in the rest of the country, and the minority out there will blend in pretty well.

I went to high school in northern Mississippi and I can assure you from first hand experience that they are very noticed and very hated by some. My experience showed me it was far more intense outside Utah than in it.

 

[Gameface]

Mormons have and do face persecution. I find it a valid comparison. Mormons have been where homosexuals are.

Say what?

 

[Archie Moses]

With the people who complain about how the state is governed and laws that are influenced by the church, have you ever thought that that's just how the cookie crumbles. I mean, SLC was founded by mormons and thus, there is a lot of influence by them. I think some of the laws (especially alcohol laws) are whack and make no sense, but then again that's because of where I live and the history of the state.

It's like living in Rome and bitching about Catholics or am I way off?

 

[Archie Moses]

With the people who complain about how the state is governed and laws that are influenced by the church, have you ever thought that that's just how the cookie crumbles. I mean, SLC was founded by mormons and thus, there is a lot of influence by them. I think some of the laws (especially alcohol laws) are whack and make no sense, but then again that's because of where I live and the history of the state.

It's like living in Rome and bitching about Catholics or am I way off?

Sorry, I wrote this really quick and just read it. I hope it makes a lil sense, if not I'll see if I can re-word it later. I have my son and I'm chasing him around.

 

[UGLI baby]

Say what?

Holy ****. Lol



posted from my htc one using tapaBONGO

 

[Archie Moses]

And my main question was about why people go out of their way to demonize it and make it look evil.