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[Dr. Jones]

NCAA denies a kid an entire year of eligibility because he practiced for 8 minutes in a preseason scrimmage.

SAME exact thing happened at Notre Dame and the kid got 4 day suspension. Difference? Old Dominion brings no money into NCAA.

I think the NCAA is not much longer for this world and the UNC scandal will likely be the final nail.

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/ncaa-denies-odu-guard-senior-season-over-eight-143717528.html

 

[babe]

tl,dnr.

The NCAA is governed on the same principles as the Obama Administration, which is the same as every US administration since Millard Fillmore, and is now the universal principle of governance from the UN to the local dogcatcher.

Clearly, modern man has at last come back to bedrock moral authority, which I might derisively but ineffectually call the "Arrogance of Power", though truthfully it really is the "Power of Arrogance". The governed just have to realize that it's not "power" if it is based on any "principles" or even "public service". It is only power when it is arbitrary, capricious, and beyond the right of the people to appeal.

The NCAA has now established that it is founded on this solid bedrock and can no longer be questioned, challenged, or shamed into doing what you or anyone else, even the whole world, may think is "just".

Heil Obama.

 

[Former Member]

Dude... this is absolute garbage, an absolutely horrible ruling by the NCAA.

BTW... I have not heard about any UNC scandal? Can you possibly enlighten me with a link?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Dude... this is absolute garbage, an absolutely horrible ruling by the NCAA.

BTW... I have not heard about any UNC scandal? Can you possibly enlighten me with a link?

I'll get you some stuff.. but I could literally link a hundred things.. it's finally been picked up by CBS, ESPN..and others.

brb

 

[Dr. Jones]

As I said, there are a ton.. here's a recent one from the Raleigh Observer.

https://www.newsobserver.com/2013/06/08/2948647/former-unc-african-studies-chairman.html

 

[Dr. Jones]

So, what pisses me off is the selective enforcement.

Georgia had wins vacated and their coach put on a 7 year show-cause because a couple kids didn't go to an actual class.
UNC has been found 100% guilty of creating classes that don't even exist, at all.. and the NCAA says it's out of their jurisdiction. Huh?
UNC players didn't go to class.. received fake grades, from fake professors .. NCAA says it's none of their business.

Though, when the NCAA 'suspected' Rose cheated on his ACT BEFORE he even chose a college .. and the NCAA requested that ROSE (3 years later) prove he had taken it (how do you prove that???) .. Rose was playing for the Bulls and said, "Ain't nobody got time for that."

Timeline;

Rose takes ACT
Rose chooses Memphis to play college ball
NCAA clearinghouse clears Rose to play
Memphis plays Rose
Rose goes pro and gets drafted by the Bulls
NCAA hears Rose may have had a brother or friend take the test for him
NCAA demands proof from Rose that he didn't cheat
Rose says **** off
NCAA then reverses it's own clearinghouse ruling and deems Rose ineligible
NCAA strips Memphis for playing an ineligible player for MAYBE cheating on the ACT

NCAA says fake classes and grades are not their jurisdiction. Yes, I'm mad.

 

[Former Member]

As I said, there are a ton.. here's a recent one from the Raleigh Observer.

https://www.newsobserver.com/2013/06/08/2948647/former-unc-african-studies-chairman.html

Thank you for the link. I was worried the scandal was tied into academics, but I had no idea it was that extensive.

 

[Former Member]

So, what pisses me off is the selective enforcement.

Georgia had wins vacated and their coach put on a 7 year show-cause because a couple kids didn't go to an actual class.
UNC has been found 100% guilty of creating classes that don't even exist, at all.. and the NCAA says it's out of their jurisdiction. Huh?
UNC players didn't go to class.. received fake grades, from fake professors .. NCAA says it's none of their business.

Though, when the NCAA 'suspected' Rose cheated on his ACT BEFORE he even chose a college .. and the NCAA requested that ROSE (3 years later) prove he had taken it (how do you prove that???) .. Rose was playing for the Bulls and said, "Ain't nobody got time for that."

Timeline;

Rose takes ACT
Rose chooses Memphis to play college ball
NCAA clearinghouse clears Rose to play
Memphis plays Rose
Rose goes pro and gets drafted by the Bulls
NCAA hears Rose may have had a brother or friend take the test for him
NCAA demands proof from Rose that he didn't cheat
Rose says **** off
NCAA then reverses it's own clearinghouse ruling and deems Rose ineligible
NCAA strips Memphis for playing an ineligible player for MAYBE cheating on the ACT

NCAA says fake classes and grades are not their jurisdiction. Yes, I'm mad.

I agree that the inconsistency is maddening, however, how would you fix the situation?

 

[scootsy]

when did unc hand out this ruling? wasn't this like a year ago? just wondering why it's making its rounds again

 

[Dr. Jones]

ANother one. Marcus Camby took money from an agent, was ruled ineligible, and UMass stripped of wins. Corey Maggette took money from an agent, NCAA said they didn't want to waste time on the past. Duke player Lance Thomas bought $100,000 in jewelry, putting $30,000 down and a promise to pay quickly.. THAT is an absolute violation of NCAA rules as you cannot use future income for loans .. NCAA looked into it for about 5 minutes (token look, that is) said no reason to look into how he got the money... or why he was extended credit ... and he was never even asked.

I'm less concerned about what the rules are, but hate inconsistent enforcement.

 

[Dr. Jones]

when did unc hand out this ruling? wasn't this like a year ago? just wondering why it's making its rounds again

what ruling?

This thing is about 7 or 8 months old (when the news broke) but emails show it's been going on for 20 years. News outlets and the NCAA were showing no interest until recently.

 

[Dr. Jones]