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Dr. Jones

Dr. Jones

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The NCAA is governed on the same principles as the Obama Administration, which is the same as every US administration since Millard Fillmore, and is now the universal principle of governance from the UN to the local dogcatcher.

Clearly, modern man has at last come back to bedrock moral authority, which I might derisively but ineffectually call the "Arrogance of Power", though truthfully it really is the "Power of Arrogance". The governed just have to realize that it's not "power" if it is based on any "principles" or even "public service". It is only power when it is arbitrary, capricious, and beyond the right of the people to appeal.

The NCAA has now established that it is founded on this solid bedrock and can no longer be questioned, challenged, or shamed into doing what you or anyone else, even the whole world, may think is "just".

Heil Obama.
 
Dude... this is absolute garbage, an absolutely horrible ruling by the NCAA.

BTW... I have not heard about any UNC scandal? Can you possibly enlighten me with a link?
 
WhiskyPriest said:
Dude... this is absolute garbage, an absolutely horrible ruling by the NCAA.

BTW... I have not heard about any UNC scandal? Can you possibly enlighten me with a link?
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I'll get you some stuff.. but I could literally link a hundred things.. it's finally been picked up by CBS, ESPN..and others.

brb
 
So, what pisses me off is the selective enforcement.

Georgia had wins vacated and their coach put on a 7 year show-cause because a couple kids didn't go to an actual class.
UNC has been found 100% guilty of creating classes that don't even exist, at all.. and the NCAA says it's out of their jurisdiction. Huh?
UNC players didn't go to class.. received fake grades, from fake professors .. NCAA says it's none of their business.

Though, when the NCAA 'suspected' Rose cheated on his ACT BEFORE he even chose a college .. and the NCAA requested that ROSE (3 years later) prove he had taken it (how do you prove that???) .. Rose was playing for the Bulls and said, "Ain't nobody got time for that."

Timeline;

Rose takes ACT
Rose chooses Memphis to play college ball
NCAA clearinghouse clears Rose to play
Memphis plays Rose
Rose goes pro and gets drafted by the Bulls
NCAA hears Rose may have had a brother or friend take the test for him
NCAA demands proof from Rose that he didn't cheat
Rose says **** off
NCAA then reverses it's own clearinghouse ruling and deems Rose ineligible
NCAA strips Memphis for playing an ineligible player for MAYBE cheating on the ACT

NCAA says fake classes and grades are not their jurisdiction. Yes, I'm mad.
 
PKM said:
So, what pisses me off is the selective enforcement.

Georgia had wins vacated and their coach put on a 7 year show-cause because a couple kids didn't go to an actual class.
UNC has been found 100% guilty of creating classes that don't even exist, at all.. and the NCAA says it's out of their jurisdiction. Huh?
UNC players didn't go to class.. received fake grades, from fake professors .. NCAA says it's none of their business.

Though, when the NCAA 'suspected' Rose cheated on his ACT BEFORE he even chose a college .. and the NCAA requested that ROSE (3 years later) prove he had taken it (how do you prove that???) .. Rose was playing for the Bulls and said, "Ain't nobody got time for that."

Timeline;

Rose takes ACT
Rose chooses Memphis to play college ball
NCAA clearinghouse clears Rose to play
Memphis plays Rose
Rose goes pro and gets drafted by the Bulls
NCAA hears Rose may have had a brother or friend take the test for him
NCAA demands proof from Rose that he didn't cheat
Rose says **** off
NCAA then reverses it's own clearinghouse ruling and deems Rose ineligible
NCAA strips Memphis for playing an ineligible player for MAYBE cheating on the ACT

NCAA says fake classes and grades are not their jurisdiction. Yes, I'm mad.
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I agree that the inconsistency is maddening, however, how would you fix the situation?
 
when did unc hand out this ruling? wasn't this like a year ago? just wondering why it's making its rounds again
 
ANother one. Marcus Camby took money from an agent, was ruled ineligible, and UMass stripped of wins. Corey Maggette took money from an agent, NCAA said they didn't want to waste time on the past. Duke player Lance Thomas bought $100,000 in jewelry, putting $30,000 down and a promise to pay quickly.. THAT is an absolute violation of NCAA rules as you cannot use future income for loans .. NCAA looked into it for about 5 minutes (token look, that is) said no reason to look into how he got the money... or why he was extended credit ... and he was never even asked.

I'm less concerned about what the rules are, but hate inconsistent enforcement.
 
scootsy said:
when did unc hand out this ruling? wasn't this like a year ago? just wondering why it's making its rounds again
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what ruling?

This thing is about 7 or 8 months old (when the news broke) but emails show it's been going on for 20 years. News outlets and the NCAA were showing no interest until recently.
 
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scootsy said:
Sorry meant when did the NCAA hand the ruling tooooooo unc
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There just was no ruling, per se.. it was more of just a "out of our jurisdiction" statement.

The reason they said this is because of the "Martin Report" led by the Governor (and UNC Alum) of North Carolina. The report concluded that is was not an athletic scandal, but rather an academic scandal .. not sure how the NCAA concludes that's out of their jurisdiction.. especially in light of all stuff I posted above that clearly contradicts that notion.

But now .. there has been a TON of additional information come out that the Martin Report didn't have .. and didn't ask for.

NBC, CBS, ESPN, the Sporting News, and every major newspaper in North Carolina has written scathing articles in the last few days.
Word from NCAA? *crickets*

I'm sure glad they kept that kid at OLD Dominion from playing his senior year of basketball because of an ambiguous rule and an obvious misunderstanding.. 8 minute scrimmage cost him his senior year. Disgusting.
 
So UConn is on probation for falling below the required grades set forth by the NCAA. So what's the lesson here? If there's any doubt you will get bad grades, don't go to class/go to a fake class because then the NCAA has no interest in any of that.
 
PKM said:
So UConn is on probation for falling below the required grades set forth by the NCAA. So what's the lesson here? If there's any doubt you will get bad grades, don't go to class/go to a fake class because then the NCAA has no interest in any of that.
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Or go to UNC or Duke, so that it doesn't matter.
 
Dal, after your stressful 18 years as an orthopedic surgeon when you move onto the cushy field of academics where you are only required to teach 6 hours a week in a medical school, would you make a fake class and give fake grades for those kind of benefits? Just wondering.
 
scootsy said:
Dal, after your stressful 18 years as an orthopedic surgeon when you move onto the cushy field of academics where you are only required to teach 6 hours a week in a medical school, would you make a fake class and give fake grades for those kind of benefits? Just wondering.
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Well first I gotta write an MCAT, and keep lifting my grades, lol. I'm very......very far removed from this situation, realistically speaking.





Hypothetically speaking, I don't see myself every doing something like that. I feel like I would lose all integrity as one who is in a position of power, or a position to try and enlighten the next generations.


I mean it can be hard to tell at times, but I have a pretty strong set of morals. Also, the allure of wealth and benefits isn't compelling to me.



With all of this said, the institution of Education is one that I value and respect probably more than any other institution imaginable. To me, it is so fundamentally important that every human being us offered an opportunity to be taught information, while seemingly irrelevant, to help them someday in the distant future.





To create fake classes would make me feel like I'm not only betraying the students, in terms of not giving teaching them skills that they deserve to be taught-- it would also make me feel like I am betraying all of those who have fought for universal education, and those who put their lives on the line for the sake of one of the most important institutions in this world.


So from the outside looking in, There's just so much fundamentally wrong about it, that I couldn't dream myself of doing something like that.
 
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