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NBA Finals: Spurs vs. Heat

Who gunna win this ****?

  • Spurs

    Votes: 28 73.7%
  • Heat

    Votes: 10 26.3%

  • Total voters
    38
Losing game 6 was a team effort as well. I think the most glaring mistake was Ginobili trying to draw a foul, up 3 (IIRC), with time on the shot clock, while time is running down on the game clock, in an elimination game of the NBA finals. Refs don't want to decide the game anymore than anyone else does and he should know better. Cumulatively, Ginobili was just terrible. Shot his own team in the face repeatedly.

I agree, it is a team effort and no one will blame Kawhi for it, but put yourself in Kawhi's shoes. Looking back, wouldn't you be kicking yourself? It'd take me a while to forget it...
 
I agree, it is a team effort and no one will blame Kawhi for it, but put yourself in Kawhi's shoes. Looking back, wouldn't you be kicking yourself? It'd take me a while to forget it...

I think almost everyone on the spurs is kicking themselves.

Green missed all his 3 pt attempts in game 6 and missed an easy warm up tip in towards the end of regulation.

Everyone talks about kawhi's missed ft... What about Manu's? Manu must feel horrible about this series.

Duncan has got to wonder what happened in that second half when it looked like he was going for 40-50 pts? Duncan has got to wonder how he missed that chippy against Battier.

Parker must be wondering too, if only he could have done this or that better.

Pops must be second guessing himself too. Not only for taking Duncan out in game 6 but also for trusting so much in Manu. Manu ultimately let him down. I know if I were pop... I'd be wondering if I should have used more Blair or given some burn to T-Mac. Despite not playing much ball over the past 2 years, I have a hard time believing that T-Mac could have been any worse than Manu or Green the past 2 games. If anything, maybe the memories of the old T-Mac allow him to serve as a decoy and create opportunities for others?

Jazz fans have been through brutal game 7s before and disappointing Finals. It's rough. I hope this wasn't the last of Duncan. I love watching him play.

For the jazz, we have an insane amount of work to do. This team needs a completely revamped roster and a new head coach.
 
^^^

First of all, usually a rebuild takes 8 years. The jazz are wayyy ahead of schedule on that. Ty is fine, he just needs to grow with the team.
 
How can anyone not love D Wade and Lebron. Both those guys are some cool *** dudes.

They are great Ambassadors of the game and great role models .

Dead serious.

....Wade is a Chicago boy, my home town.....and he's tattooless! The later makes him a fine role model and example for the league!
 
Kudos to both teams. It was sad to see either team lose. However, in the end the Heat made the plays when needed. When you lose you always say "what if", however in reality not one player or play loses a championship. I never understood how Malone got so much more criticism for losing when there were plenty of other guys to point the finger out. In the end someone has to lose and losing sucks so the team that loses will always say what if.

I thought the Spurs showed their class in losing. I hope that some day the Jazz can raise a championship banner and do it with class. What the playoffs show us is how difficult it is to win a championship. THe Jazz have an opportunity to build the foundation of a championship in the next two years and if they do it right I believe someday they can win one. THey need at least 3 of the 4 core guys to be starters to all-star players. They need to find reliable bench players who are willing/able to play their roles and then they need some luck to get that superstar type player who is going to take over the game when it counts. Every team needed a little luck and great planning/decision making from their organization to build a championship team.

Spurs - Tanked got Duncan, Jazz passed on Parker, and Jazz lost coin toss to Spurs so they picked Gino before the Jazz could.
Heat - cleared cap in order to get Lebron and Bosh. Lucky Lebron choose Miami
Lakers - Kobe refusal to play in Charlotte and Shaq going their in FA.

Jazz have some young and talented players now they need the organization to make big and hopefully right decision in the draft and in free agency. They need Ty to develop as a coach and for the young guys to grow up and become the players we think they can become. Most important the Jazz need some luck to get a top 5 guy in next years draft and even better the top pick. The next few years should be fun watching the Jazz. I am already excited for the draft and summer league.
 
By the way, one of my associates said he watched about 10 minutes of last nights game.....and had to turn it off! Couldn't stand looking at a close up of a guy who was the product of sex with a Parrot!
 
back to Cleveland I reckon.. unless Wade signs on for 2 more years. Then it'll get real akward. Fast.

Back to Cleveland? I think that is the absolute very last place he'd go, and that's even if the NBA creates an expansion team in Siberia.

It was a bitter break-up.
 
By the way, one of my associates said he watched about 10 minutes of last nights game.....and had to turn it off! Couldn't stand looking at a close up of a guy who was the product of sex with a Parrot!

Oooh... good one.


Sucks to be him. He missed a bad *** game.
 
....Wade is a Chicago boy, my home town.....and he's tattooless! The later makes him a fine role model and example for the league!

I'm actually also extremely impressed by wade as a person. Did y'all now the despite having a job that keeps him on the road six-nine months a year and living in the public spotlight, that he has full custody of his kids? I think that's pretty impressive.
 
The bottom line is that in the NBA, guys that can create shots (for others but especially themselves) have a disproportionate advantage over their peers, and the Spurs best options there (Parker, Ginobili) were hardly effective. The Spurs took the Heat to 7 games in the NBA finals with very little playmaking on the perimeter. Gary Neal and Danny Green over the course of the series were as good or better and they can't do much with the ball. And you can't just dump the ball into the post as the post is much easier to stop.

Getting back to the point, give a detailed game-plan about how the Spurs do a better job in the half-court with no playmaking on the perimeter and against one of the best defenses in the NBA. I'm sure the great minds of the NBA will be floored with the genius of it.

....look! The Spurs won 4 Titles dumping it in to Duncan and playing team ball! They were thisclose to winning this series if not for a series of coaching blunders by the genius Popovich and a missed free throw here and there! It's true, with the rule change of allowing flagrant palming and carrying of the ball, "creating" your own shot has now become a major advantage especially when you add speed and quickness to that equation! However, the game is still a TEAM sport! Miami actually accomplished that by being unselfish and in fact, having more assists than even the Spurs had! Indiana took the Heat to a 7th game by also dumping the ball into the post. Memphis buys into that same system. Heck, if the Jazz had a center without hands of stone....we'd be talking about BOTH of the championships Stockton and Malone would have won....despite all the athletic ability of Jordan and the Bull's!
 
If by "completely backfired" you mean "obviously slowed him down for 5.5 games and almost stole an NBA finals from the best player since MJ" then yes, I completely agree.

Sometimes guys make shots. If your choice is giving the most insane physical specimen and versatile talent the league has ever seen (it's not really even close) open shooters, an open lane to the basket because he blows by you, or shooting off-the-dribble 20+ footers, you give him the latter and hope it works. And it did for 5.5 games.

...you forgot to add: "giving the most insane physical specimen with quickness and speed the advantage of also palming the ball.....your going to give him the outside jumpshot and hope he misses more than he makes!" Actually, that's true with alot of players in todays NBA. I'm surprised they had as much success staying in front of him even when they backed off 6-8 feet!
 
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