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interesting if the jazz were in position to draft Randle, Parker and wiggins off the board, I think a good coach would find a way to play kanter, favors and randle together. it might be creating a different offensive system and movement defensively. I think it could be done.

A 3-man rotation of Kanter, Favors and Randle works, with Gobert getting limited mins. as the fourth big. But after Year #1, would Randle be content coming off the bench? He'd likely have to start as a big SF, with Hayward at SG. As PKM said, can (or should) Randle see any mins at SF? Perhaps as just a token starter, then he's either the first one out or Favors is, with Randle then sliding over to PF. It would certainly be a nice problem to have. I think it could be managed, by a coach who is a good communicator. Oh wait, Corbin has a history of alienating players by not explaining their roles.
 
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I'm not saying he can't dunk it. All I'm saying is he needs to do a big run up to get that momentum going and he uses up a lot of energy... trying to carry 200+ lb body going airborne.


For the dunk to be an effective attacking tool, he really needs to be able to do it effortlessly without much timing & him expending too much energy doing it. Moreover, the dunk itself could be counter-productive if he gets tired or injured doing it (he already has a bad ankle).

YOU waste a lot of energy. See above.
 
A 3-man rotation of Kanter, Favors and Randle works, with Gobert getting limited mins. as the fourth big. But after Year #1, would Randle be content coming off the bench? He'd likely have to start as a big SF, with Hayward at SG. As PKM said, can (or should) Randle see any mins at SF? Perhaps as just a token starter, then he's either the first one out or Favors is, with Randle then sliding over to PF. It would certainly be a nice problem to have. I think it could be managed, by a coach who is a good communicator. Oh wait, Corbin has a history of alienating players by not explaining their roles.

Now after watching tens of Randle videos, I am almost certain that he will get minimum mins as a SF, maybe none at all. Especially after his first few years because he will get heavier and heavier with time with that body type. No way he can play SF if he gains another 15-20 libs.
 
i said a good coach but corbin is not a good coach. Everyone wants to define the 3 as a SF. If you want to play them together the flex wont work but a motion offense would or a highpost. kanter can hit the 3 as could randle.
 
Now after watching tens of Randle videos, I am almost certain that he will get minimum mins as a SF, maybe none at all. Especially after his first few years because he will get heavier and heavier with time with that body type. No way he can play SF if he gains another 15-20 libs.

It's not necessarily his weight(what you call heavy). It's how fast he can move that weight, how fast he can change direction, mobility. And I don't see him being mobile enough to guard SFs. LeBron is heavy as ****, but he's even faster.
Drummond is super heavy, but equally quick on his feet.
 
It's not necessarily his weight(what you call heavy). It's how fast he can move that weight, how fast he can change direction, mobility. And I don't see him being mobile enough to guard SFs. LeBron is heavy as ****, but he's even faster.
Drummond is super heavy, but equally quick on his feet.

I don't even know what his current weight is. I too base my opinion on the eye test like you do. It's apparent that he is not a Lebron, not even close. Maybe he could play some hypothetical obligatory minutes as a SF with his current shape but if he ever gains another 15-20 lbs, which is very likely, he would be nothing but harmful at the 3. It's his body type and agility like you said not the numbers of his weight.
 
Parker at a recent pro am game. He is deceptively athletic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBY0qRXdZiI


Having Hayward and Jabari on the wings would be a thing of beauty. So fundamentally sound and deceptively athletic. Then you've got twin towers down low in Favors/Kanter, Burke at the helm, and Burks as a 6th man.

#Jazzgasm
 
Parker at a recent pro am game. He is deceptively athletic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBY0qRXdZiI


Here's a comment based solely on the highlight videos and Hoops Summit (i.e. a comment like 99% of all comments on jazzfanz):

Parker seems to be improving his ability to employ hesitation moves with greater differentiations of speed: slower to faster to slower. Bigger bursts.

And, he seems to be making quicker decisions about when and how to get into these moves.


I like!
 
Has anyone talked about the prospect of getting BOTH of Wiggins & Jabari??? Would that somehow not make us instant contenders for DECADES to come???

How?

- We win lottery and get #1 pick (Wiggins)

- Trade Hayward, Burks and GSW '14 and '17 picks for #4 pick in '14 (We pick Jabari, Randle was taken #2, Exum was taken #3)

Potential KILLER lineup:

Kanter
Favors
Jabari
Wiggins
Burke

If that somehow happens, I'm gonna sell our business here in NZ and move permanently to Salt Lake.
 
Has anyone talked about the prospect of getting BOTH of Wiggins & Jabari??? Would that somehow not make us instant contenders for DECADES to come???

How?

- We win lottery and get #1 pick (Wiggins)

- Trade Hayward, Burks and GSW '14 and '17 picks for #4 pick in '14 (We pick Jabari, Randle was taken #2, Exum was taken #3)

Potential KILLER lineup:

Kanter
Favors
Jabari
Wiggins
Burke

If that somehow happens, I'm gonna sell our business here in NZ and move permanently to Salt Lake.

Mixed emotions ..
 
GSW would have to fall apart next season (top 10 pick) for anyone to do that trade. Otherwise, I think we'd have to give up Favors or Kanter instead of Hayward.
 
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