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It Looks Like All the Non-Guaranteed Guys Are Gone

cowhide said:
All I am saying is that if they start to play hero ball other teams will notice and their trade value goes down.
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If hero ball starts to happen on a regular basis is shows a lack of atmosphere and leadership from the FO, coaching staff and team.
 
addictionary said:
The definition of tanking. I've had the same issue to talk with Stoked before and I think we want the same thing, hate the same thing. I think you misunderstood me. Hell this was the first time I was saying anything positive about a tanking situation since all those talks begun. I myself don't care for the win record or drafted stars more than playing every game to win even if you have a crap team.
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All I am saying is that tanking (for me) has a negative connotation. It means a team won't play its best players, they will hold out a player even if he is healthy or they sign inferior players over better players. Last year GS was a perfect example of tanking.

Rebuilding is giving your young talented guys opportunities to develop, clearing cap space and acquiring draft picks and not signing flawed veterans who put up good numbers but haven't been good enough to make the playoffs. It means playing hard and working on improving individually and collectively. This year's Jazz team so far is a perfect example of rebuilding a franchise into a potential contender.

There is a fine line between tanking and rebuilding but I think players (especially younger players trying to prove themselves) have a much harder time with tanking. Ty has no reason to tank because it might end up him losing his job.
 
My goodness people. Can't anyone see that the rebuilding guys AND the tanking guys are both correct?

We are rebuilding. We are focusing on the youth and their development.

AND

We are tanking. We have no bench. We let Millsap walk. We didn't bring in a quality vet pg. Corbin is still the coach.

The Jazz set themselves up to play the young 'uns AND lose.
 
green said:
My goodness people. Can't anyone see that the rebuilding guys AND the tanking guys are both correct?

We are rebuilding. We are focusing on the youth and their development.

AND

We are tanking. We have no bench. We let Millsap walk. We didn't bring in a quality vet pg. Corbin is still the coach.

The Jazz set themselves up to play the young 'uns AND lose.
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Corbin being the coach is the most tankish thing the Jazz are doing this year.
 
green said:
My goodness people. Can't anyone see that the rebuilding guys AND the tanking guys are both correct?

We are rebuilding. We are focusing on the youth and their development.

AND

We are tanking. We have no bench. We let Millsap walk. We didn't bring in a quality vet pg. Corbin is still the coach.

The Jazz set themselves up to play the young 'uns AND lose.
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Pretty much everyone but you is right Mr. Lose On Purpose.
 
nightmare3983 said:
Rotowire.com's crew seems to think Dominic McGuire will stick around. His status is as follows:

"McGuire is listed as doubtful for Wednesday's exhibition against the Clippers due to tendinitis in his right ankle, the Salt Lake Tribune reports.
Spin:
The injury doesn't appear to be too serious, but the Jazz will likely rest him for the final two preseason contests to ensure that he is healthy when the regular season rolls around."

Lol
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If I'm the Jazz I keep either McGuire or Cook just for the length. The frontcourt is just too thin IMO:
Kanter - appears solid but still young
Favors - same, but foul trouble can be an issue
Evans - speaking of being thin...tough for him to play PF for really long stretches if needed, plus he has been injured
Biedrins - self-explanatory...he's a body, but if he plays much that's not a good thing
Gobert - I'd like to see him get a little more PT
Williams - also a little out of position, but could play PF if needed...of course he has also been hurt

So with three young guys, two guys recently injured SFs, and Biedrins, I just wouldn't mind having another 6'9" guy around just in case.
 
Kenwood said:
If I'm the Jazz I keep either McGuire or Cook just for the length. The frontcourt is just too thin IMO:
Kanter - appears solid but still young
Favors - same, but foul trouble can be an issue
Evans - speaking of being thin...tough for him to play PF for really long stretches if needed, plus he has been injured
Biedrins - self-explanatory...he's a body, but if he plays much that's not a good thing
Gobert - I'd like to see him get a little more PT
Williams - also a little out of position, but could play PF if needed...of course he has also been hurt

So with three young guys, two guys recently injured SFs, and Biedrins, I just wouldn't mind having another 6'9" guy around just in case.
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Give Corbin a plethora of choices and the scrubs will get a plethora of minutes.
 
green said:
My goodness people. Can't anyone see that the rebuilding guys AND the tanking guys are both correct?

We are rebuilding. We are focusing on the youth and their development.

AND

We are tanking. We have no bench. We let Millsap walk. We didn't bring in a quality vet pg. Corbin is still the coach.

The Jazz set themselves up to play the young 'uns AND lose.
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Exactly. It IS going to be hard on the core-3 (Kanter, Favors and Hayward) to keep losing. You've heard their frustration already in pre-season. But they'll get over it. Tinsley and Lucas will be a good influence early on. Get a great pick, bring in a FA or two and Utah is back in the playoffs next season - and all will be forgiven and forgotten.
 
@sluhm: Jazz have waived Brian Cook, Scott Machado, Lester Hudson, Dominic McGuire, Justin Holiday.
 
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