Following potential 2014 draftees

[Deleted member 848]

Would you rather draft Randle and trade Kanter? With Gobert, I'd rather trade Favors and keep Kanter who gives us much more in terms of scoring.

If we have Randle as our transcendent scorer, it would be of much more importance to have a solid defensive/rebounding presence at the 5. Favors is nearly there right now, so I'd be more compelled to trade Kanter. Obviously, I say this without having seen all three of them play a season together-- so my opinion would be very subject to change.

As Kanter can't play the C effectively (his defensive rebound sucks and he's proven to be too small for the likes of Brooke Lopez), He's better suited at the PF. Meaning if you'd want to start Randle, he'll have to play the 3.

You're going to throw away 2 seasons of good defensive-rebounding in favour of his rebounding over the span of 7 games? Really?

Was he "too small" to score on the likes of Marc Gasol, Andrew Bynum, et. al?

I'd much rather see him try to score on the like of the Lopez twins, than to see him trying to defend Channing Frye, Carmelo Anthony, Paul Millsap, Josh Smith, and the likes of them.

 

[PJKino]

Also, and i might be wrong, I think he is younger than parker?

Yes he is by about 3 weeks

 

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Personally, I think it's unbelievably dumb to draft Randle solely off of the expectation that he can play the 3 next to Favors/Kanter or Kanter/Gobert or whatever our frontcourt rotation might be.


Its plainly obvious that Randle has a great chance of being the best big on our team if we draft him-- so why do we make him fit into our team structure? Should it not be the opposite? If we draft Randle, he should get the starting gig as PF, 100%. Whether that means we move Kanter to the 5, or Gobert to the 5 and Kanter to the bench, it really doesn't ****ing matter. The 86 celtics managed to secure a rotation with Bill Walton, Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale-- all HOFers (Bill Walton also got 6th man of the year that year, IIRC).

If we draft Randle, it means our team wants him as our starting PF. It's fine if it makes Favors or Kanter expendable-- seeing as there are a plethora of teams who'd want them on their rosters. This is what drafting BPA is all about. We draft the best player, we cut the weakest link, and use the assets we get in return to address a position of need.

So, if the jazz get their hands on a great prospect... say, a big man drafted around #3 overall... then we should expect them to start him and build an identity around him?

Man! I wish the jazz could get big men like that!!!

 

[Deleted member 848]

So, if the jazz get their hands on a great prospect... say, a big man drafted around #3 overall... then we should expect them to start him and build an identity around him?

Man! I wish the jazz could get big men like that!!!

Right, because Randle first played basketball at age 14, played zero college ball, and he will inevitably have difficulties in his rookie season with things like keeping the ball up on offensive rebounds. Both players will definitely be at the exact same developmental stages when they first step foot on an NBA court.

But no ur rite all 3rd overall pix R equl


EDIT: You probably misunderstood my earlier post, so I'll clarify: I did not suggest that Randle should be given starting duty on opening night.

Rather, I suggested that if our FO chooses to draft him, it is with the expectation that he will be our starting PF for the coming years. For Randle, I anticipate he won't have to wait for 2 years like Kanter, for reasons that I stated.

 

[franklin]

Harrison diving on a ball and flipping it over his shoulder for the fast break showed ridiculous court vision potential.

 

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Right, because Randle first played basketball at age 14, played zero college ball, and he will inevitably have difficulties in his rookie season with things like keeping the ball up on offensive rebounds. Both players will definitely be at the exact same developmental stages when they first step foot on an NBA court.

But no ur rite all 3rd overall pix R equl

Where's your evidence the jazz regard big-man prospects in any way commensurate with your vision?

 

[The Midnight]

If we have Randle as our transcendent scorer, it would be of much more importance to have a solid defensive/rebounding presence at the 5. Favors is nearly there right now, so I'd be more compelled to trade Kanter. Obviously, I say this without having seen all three of them play a season together-- so my opinion would be very subject to change.



You're going to throw away 2 seasons of good defensive-rebounding in favour of his rebounding over the span of 7 games? Really?

Was he "too small" to score on the likes of Marc Gasol, Andrew Bynum, et. al?

I'd much rather see him try to score on the like of the Lopez twins, than to see him trying to defend Channing Frye, Carmelo Anthony, Paul Millsap, Josh Smith, and the likes of them.

The question is can Kanter guard the likes of Marc Gasol, Brooke Lopez, Hibbert, Duncan,... the answer for me is No.

 

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The question is can Kanter guard the likes of Marc Gasol, Brooke Lopez, Hibbert, Duncan,... the answer for me is No.

Maybe you should let him get back into shape and re-gain some his strength before rushing to your talking points? Kanter has been miserable guarding all positions so far this year... does that mean he doesn't have a position?

 

[The Midnight]

Maybe you should let him get back into shape and re-gain some his strength before rushing to your talking points? Kanter has been miserable guarding all positions so far this year... does that mean he doesn't have a position?

If he is "miserable guarding all positions" - then the Center position (which is the most pivotal) is the last position I want him to be guarding. I'd rather let someone like Favors/Gobert anchor the paint and try to block shots.

 

[spycam1]

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If he is "miserable guarding all positions" - then the Center position (which is the most pivotal) is the last position I want him to be guarding. I'd rather let someone like Favors/Gobert anchor the paint and try to block shots.

I guess you missed the part that went "...so far this year"?

BTW, I'll never try to seriously engage with you on an idea, so spend your troll time elsewhere.

 

[Dr. Jones]

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