Zimmerman arrested again
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or perhaps it was there all along but unnoticed because he was not a "celebrity" of sorts...
Very possible.
The problem was that the Martin case could not be proven beyond a doubt one way or the other. It is very possible that he stalked Martin, confronted him, started a fight starting losing that fight and then shot him in anger. That is murder. However that was not proven beyond a doubt and so he goes free.
His current behaviour does lend some more credability to that theory.
GVC
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I said nothing about the case.
Dude's allegedly assaulted 3 women, a cop, his father-in-law, made additional threats, and killed a minor. Not sure what the solution is, but violent, anti-social behavior should not be tolerated.
Shooting someone, even when justified (not specific to Zimmerman/Martin), has massive consequences for the shooter. I'm always appalled when I hear people say that if someone broke into their home they would kill them. They talk about it like they get a free pass to take someone's life. First, that's not what your rights are. Your right is to defend yourself. Seldom do I hear people talk about using deadly force as a means to self-defense. Usually they talk about it as a means to kill. Bragging about the caliber or ammo type of their weapon and how it would be sure to kill a person dead. Worse is when they say things like "two in the chest one in the head" as if to put the point on it that the goal is not to stop the threat but to kill a scumbag.
What I think they are entirely failing to realize is that regardless of their fantasies, they are not stone cold killers. The act of killing another human being will likely leave them severely traumatized. The act may be called into question, especially if they went beyond self defense and sought to make sure the person was dead, and they'll be defending them self against serious legal action. Their life will almost certainly not just return to normal even if the killing was justified.
Zimmerman was having marital problems before he killed Martin. His wife seems to have felt some sense of duty to stand by her man during his trial, but that's over now. Are Zimmerman's actions evidence that he's always been prone to violence and aggression? Or, are his actions evidence of the strain the using deadly force puts on a person coupled with the strain of a failed marriage? I don't think we can say.
What I can say, though, is that it is far better to use the least amount of force necessary to defend yourself than to seek out confrontations and use the maximum amount of force or equip yourself in a way that makes any use of force likely to be deadly.
What I think they are entirely failing to realize is that regardless of their fantasies, they are not stone cold killers. The act of killing another human being will likely leave them severely traumatized. The act may be called into question, especially if they went beyond self defense and sought to make sure the person was dead, and they'll be defending them self against serious legal action. Their life will almost certainly not just return to normal even if the killing was justified.
Zimmerman was having marital problems before he killed Martin. His wife seems to have felt some sense of duty to stand by her man during his trial, but that's over now. Are Zimmerman's actions evidence that he's always been prone to violence and aggression? Or, are his actions evidence of the strain the using deadly force puts on a person coupled with the strain of a failed marriage? I don't think we can say.
What I can say, though, is that it is far better to use the least amount of force necessary to defend yourself than to seek out confrontations and use the maximum amount of force or equip yourself in a way that makes any use of force likely to be deadly.
When I hear people, myself included, talk about shooting an intruder I assume it is that someone has broken into my home is coming at me in the dark. If you catch an intruder in your home and they turn and flee obviously you cannot shoot them as they are not presenting an immediate threat to you or your family.
margodydek
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I think this all goes to show that Zimmerman is nuts and should be in jail, but that he's probably not a racist.
The problem with that is that you have to prove beyond a resonable doubt that he deserves to be in jail. That case has not been made. It is a very important line to draw. When you start putting who "should" be in jail versus who is proven needs jail you get on a slippery slope and one I oppose.