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when will we hear news of Kanter ?

When I read GVC or Thriller posting against Kanter, I just wish to have BIG-AL back.

#bringBackAL
 
Mission Accomplished said:
YOU have to be fooling yourselves if you think that Favors has earned playing time or even Hayward. If Alec or Kanter struggle just like those other two the situation is changed they have to earn their minutes. But, the difference is there is some type of bias going on that gives those two some sort of birth right. Personally I'm not really wowed by Hayward or Favors they haven't earned their minutes either.
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Hayward and favors are older than burks and kanter
 
Diamond77 said:
I guess Kanter misses BigAl too! ahah
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I think that even BIG-AL is laughing out hard, watching Marvin Williams playing above Kanter as a starter.

I rather watch BIG-AL playing Center and taking 25 shots a game, than Marvin Williams as starting five player over Kanter.
 
CAKAR said:
I think that even BIG-AL is laughing out hard, watching Marvin Williams playing above Kanter as a starter.

I rather watch BIG-AL playing Center and taking 25 shots a game, than Kanter as starting five player over Kanter.
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I think Atlanta is laughing too having Millsap and Carroll....watching Marvin playing 4!
 
Im not saying that Iam BIG-AL, all Im saying is no one has seen me posting on Jazzfans while BIG-AL was on the court. HI HI HI

#bringBackAL
 
zbone said:
This is ********.
Out of his first 14 games before Kanter got benched he did not deliver or had bad games only on 4 occasions. The rest is 50/50 mixture of great and decent performances stat wise.
On defense his rotations were poor but just as almost everyone's else. If you make Kanter on pick and rolls show 6 ft above three point line you are asking for trouble. Man to man he was indeed bullied but you can blame loss of muscles over the offseason.

The most logical thing to do was tweaking defensive schemes to cover his lack of agility. On offensive the ball stops in his hands because he has no one to pass FFS more often than not! It's Corfense what makes Kanter look like a ball hog. Al at least had someone to kick the ball out. Now I recall only Burks getting himself open.

Instead of trying to figure out what works best for Kanter Corbin chose fool's gold in W's now with Marvin as stretch four. After he got benched he indeed looks like crap but there was absolutely no reason for him to be benched. He is a 21 year old treated by a clueless coach as if he is a rookie on a winning team.
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Sorry but you better check your stats. The Jazz offensive rating with both Kanter and Favors on the floor together no matter who they played with was between 81-90 points per 100 poss. There Defensive rating was 103-116 depending who else was on the floor with them. With Marvin playing the stretch 4 with Favors the Jazz offensive rating jumps to 109-126. and the Defense goes down to 98-104. Marvin is in 3 of the 4 top producing units the Jazz have.

Your telling me as a coach you would continue to roll out a line up that can't score and can't defend just because Kanter needs minutes. Thats is BS, no coach in there right mind does that. By splitting Kanter and Favors the Jazz offense is much better. I have no problem with Kanter coming off the bench and playing behind Favors. I don't think it hurts his development at all. I think Hayward coming off the bench last year helped him in the long run. All this crap that the guy needs to start and play 25 minutes no matter what is crap. If he is playing well ride him. If he his playing poorly play him less. That is what Corbin has done. He is doing his job by putting out the players that give him the best chance to compete right now.

The Facts and stats say that Kanter and Favors starting together wasn't working. So if your the coach who would you start and who would you sit if you were making the choice between the 2.
 
Ben10 said:
Sorry but you better check your stats. The Jazz offensive rating with both Kanter and Favors on the floor together no matter who they played with was between 81-90 points per 100 poss. There Defensive rating was 103-116 depending who else was on the floor with them. With Marvin playing the stretch 4 with Favors the Jazz offensive rating jumps to 109-126. and the Defense goes down to 98-104. Marvin is in 3 of the 4 top producing units the Jazz have.

Your telling me as a coach you would continue to roll out a line up that can't score and can't defend just because Kanter needs minutes. Thats is BS, no coach in there right mind does that. By splitting Kanter and Favors the Jazz offense is much better. I have no problem with Kanter coming off the bench and playing behind Favors. I don't think it hurts his development at all. I think Hayward coming off the bench last year helped him in the long run. All this crap that the guy needs to start and play 25 minutes no matter what is crap. If he is playing well ride him. If he his playing poorly play him less. That is what Corbin has done. He is doing his job by putting out the players that give him the best chance to compete right now.

The Facts and stats say that Kanter and Favors starting together wasn't working. So if your the coach who would you start and who would you sit if you were making the choice between the 2.
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If your goal as coach is to pile up wins in regular season and nothing else then what Corbin is doing makes sense but confirms he is probably not the brightest guy out there.
However, if the goal is to figure out what we have in our young players, how they fit and develop them then what's been done to Kanter is beyond stupid.
 
Ben10 said:
The Jazz offensive rating with both Kanter and Favors on the floor together no matter who they played with was between 81-90 points per 100 poss. There Defensive rating was 103-116 depending who else was on the floor with them. With Marvin playing the stretch 4 with Favors the Jazz offensive rating jumps to 109-126. and the Defense goes down to 98-104. Marvin is in 3 of the 4 top producing units the Jazz have.
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Well, that's one way of looking at the stats. But never forget that the lineups with Kanter had JLIII at the PG, the lineups with Marvin had Burke.
So if you want to have a better idea how Favors - Kanter duo looks, why don't you try these lineups: Burke, Hayward, Williams, Kanter, Favors OR....... Burke, Burks, Hayward, Kanter, Favors (our wet dream)
 
Ben10 said:
If he is playing well ride him. If he his playing poorly play him less. That is what Corbin has done.
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Not true.... see hayward, gordon
 
Ben10 said:
The Facts and stats say that Kanter and Favors starting together wasn't working. So if your the coach who would you start and who would you sit if you were making the choice between the 2.
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How often did kanter and favors start together ALONG WITH TREY BURKE?
 
Ben10 said:
The Facts and stats say that the jazz as a team and everyone individually sucked before trey burke, marvin williams, and jeremy evans got healthy.
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Fixed
 
zbone said:
If your goal as coach is to pile up wins in regular season and nothing else then what Corbin is doing makes sense but confirms he is probably not the brightest guy out there.
However, if the goal is to figure out what we have in our young players, how they fit and develop them then what's been done to Kanter is beyond stupid.
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I don't buy it. Kanter was given too much before he was ready to start the season. He needs to start improving his 5-man game. When he does, his minutes and role will increase. Milk before meat...this IS how you develop players.
 
franklin said:
I get what you're saying, but again, Hayward has been given plenty minutes his first 3 seasons and rightly so. Complaining about Foye costing him more than 34 minutes doesn't work me up.
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Good thing getting you worked up wasn't my objective :)

My complaint about Foye is more general, I suppose, and that is giving heavy minutes to ST journeymen of average or declining skills and, as a result, taking minutes from players presumed to be among the team's future core. Doing this was frustrating the last two years, but it's maddening (and foolhardy) this year given that this year is all about building for the future and not winning.
 
I feel like posters horny to see Kanter play haven't been paying attention when he plays most of the time, because he is god awful most of the time these days. Unless you want him on the floor BECAUSE he makes the team significantly worse.
 
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