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At what price will the Jazz not match Hayward's contract?

oldtimer said:
That is a dream scenario for the Jazz. Let Hayward walk for anything north of 10 million. He will be a cap killer for that team. Hopefully its Phoenix. Then the Jazz can use the saving to offer 14-15 million per for Bledsoe. A true game changer. And before anyone counters with "not the way Burke is playing" please understand that many teams are going with two point guards and having great success.
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Honestly I would trade Hayward. IMO it's always better to be proactive than reactive. No need letting an asset go without compensation. No need gambling that some other GM won't offer Hayward more than the team is willing to pay.
 
Hayward will be difficult to evaluate during this crap year.

We do not know who is being told to be the #1 option different games/different halves.

Remember, this team is developing many, not just Hayward.

Last night, it looks like Hayward was not part of reindeer plans 1st half, but was the 2nd.

With all that said, here are my thoughts.

1. He is not a Max Player for any team.
2. Probably worth 4/40.
3. Will be offered 4/48


Question is ....will Jazz match ?
 
Not worth an AAV of 10 but he will probably get it. I think he is worth about 8 per. If he gets 11, 12 or more I will not like the deal. It will remind me of a smaller scale AK deal.
 
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I know this will hurt a lot of peoples feelings, but Hayward is very replaceable...players of his talent/skillset are available in every draft. We don't need to over pay. If he accepts a deal for $8M/year with the Jazz, great, if not....NEXT.

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I'm damn near in the "I don't care if Hayward walks/trade him for Bledsoe or whatever" mode.

Players like Hayward don't produce enough to be worth the current value given by the league (Batum). Superstars and role players is the only model outside that Detroit fluke (which started 5 All Stars IMO). If the Jazz want to go the Detroit route then Favors has plenty of growth to do, they have to hit lottery lightening, have to sign a free agent at the 2 or 4..... way too many variables to pay Hayward a significant amount.
 
akirac73 said:
I know this will hurt a lot of peoples feelings, but Hayward is very replaceable...players of his talent/skillset are available in every draft. We don't need to over pay. If he accepts a deal for $8M/year with the Jazz, great, if not....NEXT.

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At this point, I'd have to agree with you. If only we had kept Wes Matthews.

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akirac73 said:
I know this will hurt a lot of peoples feelings, but Hayward is very replaceable...players of his talent/skillset are available in every draft. We don't need to over pay. If he accepts a deal for $8M/year with the Jazz, great, if not....NEXT.

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Name a few that do the same things as hayward. Not many players can. His position might be easy to replace, but not players like him.
 
I'd give up Kanter for Wes.

I think Hayward's value depends on the pick Utah gets. I think if Utah gets their "guy" (Parker/Wiggins/Embiid, whoever they covet) then Hayward coming back is a priority. Especially if they covet and draft Parker. Parker is good enough to compete now. The Jazz then move forward trying to go to the playoffs now.

If the Jazz end up with the 5th or 6th pick, then Hayward is less valuable to the Jazz. They probably set up to tank another year, ala OKC and let draft pick, Burke and Favors grow together another year.
 
I think Hayward is a lot better than what he has shown as of late. The contract and losing season is hanging over his head. Yes it's his fault he is in that position but agents can be very persuasive. Anyways I had him valued at a max of 12/year before the season and would lower it to 11/year at this point.
 
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