Shelf life on uber athletic guards...

[fishonjazz]

Francis, and he burned out in 7 years as well.

Francis... good call.
Would kevin johnson count?
Marbury?

 

[BTP]

Francis, and he burned out in 7 years as well.

Never injured, simply a top5 all time headcase. Leading the pack together with Starbury, A.I., Latrell Sprewell and another wildcard that I simply forgot to include...

 

[fishonjazz]

So rose and westbrook injured supports the arguement.

Marbury, francis, iverson, kj all go against the arguement

 

[BTP]

So rose and westbrook injured supports the arguement.

Marbury, francis, iverson, kj all go against the arguement

I haven't checked on Marbury and KJ injury wise. I know that A.I. didn't alter his game enough to stay productive enough to be worth the trouble his persona created on a daily basis. At some point his offense wasn't enough to offset 5 personal babysitter, multiple lawyers and whatever you needed to keep him in check.

 

[fishonjazz]

I haven't checked on Marbury and KJ injury wise. I know that A.I. didn't alter his game enough to stay productive enough to be worth the trouble his persona created on a daily basis. At some point his offense wasn't enough to offset 5 personal babysitter, multiple lawyers and whatever you needed to keep him in check.

Why bring up iversons attitude though.
This thread is simply about FP's thoery that really athletic point guards get injured.

Iverson seemed to be pretty healthy along with those other guys so it looks like the theory is not too solid

 

[8]

Yeah, AI was basically Westbrook before Westbrook and he was fine.

Real question is, would these guys have fewer injury problems if they were better shooters?

 

[The Fresh Prince]

I think the title of this thread is extremely "racist!" "Urban Athletic?" It would have been much safer to have said "Hip Hop Guards!" That would have at least included white guys playing the position! Speaking of guards who have endured the position with both a high basketball IQ and extreme athleticism.....I guess John Stockton would be at the top of the list, huh?!!!

Uber is German. Man.
Whens the last time youve been to your eye specialist, 1979?

 

[fishonjazz]

Real question is, would these guys have fewer injury problems if they were better shooters?

Probably

 

[BTP]

Why bring up iversons attitude though.
This thread is simply about FP's thoery that really athletic point guards get injured.

Iverson seemed to be pretty healthy along with those other guys so it looks like the theory is not too solid

I just said that the reason Francis is out of the league is not because of his knee but his toxic locker room presence that just wasn't sustainable when he didn't scratch triple doubles every 2nd night. And in this fashion comparing him to Iverson who himself was very similar is fair.

Uber is German. Man.
Whens the last time youve been to your eye specialist, 1979?

Uber is derived from the German word "Über". When I hopped on the Internet was the first time I saw the word uber connected with english words.

 

[GoJazz]

Does D Will fit in this category. I wouldn't call him super athletic like a Westbrook or Rose by his play style is causing injuries and he doesn't seem to be recovering from them. I realize he is different but he seems to be breaking down both physically and mentally.

 

[carolinajazz]

Does D Will fit in this category. I wouldn't call him super athletic like a Westbrook or Rose by his play style is causing injuries and he doesn't seem to be recovering from them. I realize he is different but he seems to be breaking down both physically and mentally.

.....D. Will is definitely an 'Urban Athletic" point guard, who plays with reckless abandon and certainly contributes the amount of injuries he gets and there severity! Iverson was a freak of nature in that he rarely got seriously hurt despite playing out of control most of his career. Of course, his career was cut short by breakdowns both physically and mentally!

 

[The Fresh Prince]

.....D. Will is definitely an 'Urban Athletic" point guard, who plays with reckless abandon and certainly contributes the amount of injuries he gets and there severity! Iverson was a freak of nature in that he rarely got seriously hurt despite playing out of control most of his career. Of course, his career was cut short by breakdowns both physically and mentally!