Hayward

[MVP]

"Ugly side of greed" Really? This is the kind of attitude that prompted me to create this thread. How exactly is trying to earn a pay raise greedy? Millions of people do this every day when they go to their normal jobs, are they greedy for trying to get a raise too?

Millions of people do not get paid 10mil a year for playing a game with 3-5 month vacation time - big difference my friend.
See Stockton and how he handled contract extensions. Hayward had a chance to be the most loved and cherished player after John and he wasted that chance.

 

[green]

"Ugly side of greed" Really? This is the kind of attitude that prompted me to create this thread. How exactly is trying to earn a pay raise greedy? Millions of people do this every day when they go to their normal jobs, are they greedy for trying to get a raise too?

Hayward isn't greedy, nor has he done anything ugly. Why is it okay for the Miller Group to make it so you can't buy cars on Sunday and put pressure on the legislature to shut down their competition, threaten to move the Jazz if they don't get their way, but Hayward is the "ugly side of greed"?

Unreal.

Hayward did nothing wrong but believe the hype. He has ever right to get his because the Miller's are getting their's off his play.

 

[green]

Millions of people do not get paid 10mil a year for playing a game with 3-5 month vacation time - big difference my friend.
See Stockton and how he handled contract extensions. Hayward had a chance to be the most loved and cherished player after John and he wasted that chance.

And the Miller's screwed Stockton out of millions. So, that's ok? The big corporations screw the little guy, and that's ok...

 

[Gameface]

I think he can only blame himself. Had he just played Stockton's card and quietly taken whatever Jazz were offering nobody would be scrutinizing his every turnover or bricked shot. But since he showed ugly side of greed behind that baby face we have right to get on his *** as much as we want.

Getting paid his market value is not greed.

If you were selling a house that you had a lot of equity in would you sell it for what it was worth or would you sell it for whatever amount someone decided to offer you for it?

 

[Ellipse]

Hayward isn't going anywhere. The problem is, the Jazz hyped him up all summer long, and fans and Hayward built him up to better than he was. He is a nice player, who won't get any offer to leave Utah.

Every damn interview with Hayward started with "Are you ready to lead this team?" It's no wonder he thinks he should be paid more than Favors.

 

[The Midnight]

Every damn interview with Hayward started with "Are you ready to lead this team?" It's no wonder he thinks he should be paid more than Favors.

But is he ready though??

 

[Ellipse]

Getting paid his market value is not greed.

If you were selling a house that you had a lot of equity in would you sell it for what it was worth or would you sell it for whatever amount someone decided to offer you for it?

Well, that would depend upon who is offering. If he/she is a stranger, then yeah, I would ask for every dime I could get. But if he/she is a close family member, then it wouldn't bother me to loose some of the equity.

 

[The Midnight]

I dont think its what he did as much as how its compared to how Favors handled his situation.


Favors is an athletic big man with HUGE potential. He has all the opportunity to screw us over but didnt.

 

[mellow]

So I'm going to avoid the greed and corporations discussions and jump right to a question....

Was Hayward arguing with Sydney Lowe at the end of the 2nd quarter against the warriors?

I was out last night so I was not watching the game, but the espn (or was it TNT?) got turned on where I was just as garrett hit the shot to end the second quarter, they showed garrett and the jazz run down the tunnel, then they showed Hayward and Lowe talking still on the floor with Corbin watching them, Hayward seemed to say something to Lowe, then back away, then Lowe grabbed hayward by the arm, pulled at him and said something...then the video cut away to the warriors then a replay of Garrett's shot. Then someone changed the channel.

Did anyone else see it? Does anyone know what was happening?

 

[yamers]

So I'm going to avoid the greed and corporations discussions and jump right to a question....

Was Hayward arguing with Sydney Lowe at the end of the 2nd quarter against the warriors?

I was out last night so I was not watching the game, but the espn (or was it TNT?) got turned on where I was just as garrett hit the shot to end the second quarter, they showed garrett and the jazz run down the tunnel, then they showed Hayward and Lowe talking still on the floor with Corbin watching them, Hayward seemed to say something to Lowe, then back away, then Lowe grabbed hayward by the arm, pulled at him and said something...then the video cut away to the warriors then a replay of Garrett's shot. Then someone changed the channel.

Did anyone else see it? Does anyone know what was happening?

thats interesting....

 

[vegas]

Hayward with only 2 blocks in the last 8 games. I think he is due. Also shot 50% fg and 56% 3pt in jan. He is on his normal trajectory to get better every month of the season. I like that trend. I worry what he does when we are back in the playoffs again though.

Regarding Stock taking less, it's the mark of a selfless team player. It is definitely very rare, but would you believe me if I told you the spurs don't have a max player and Tim Duncan makes $361,000 more than Tiago Splitter this year. It doesn't mean Hayward is a bad guy, just means he's not one of those guys who is willing to partner with a franchise and sacrifice to put together a better team than they normally could. At least not now with this team.

Hayward's stats are good lately. He is inconsistent. My biggest worry is I don't trust him in clutch.

 

[The Midnight]

So I'm going to avoid the greed and corporations discussions and jump right to a question....

Was Hayward arguing with Sydney Lowe at the end of the 2nd quarter against the warriors?

I was out last night so I was not watching the game, but the espn (or was it TNT?) got turned on where I was just as garrett hit the shot to end the second quarter, they showed garrett and the jazz run down the tunnel, then they showed Hayward and Lowe talking still on the floor with Corbin watching them, Hayward seemed to say something to Lowe, then back away, then Lowe grabbed hayward by the arm, pulled at him and said something...then the video cut away to the warriors then a replay of Garrett's shot. Then someone changed the channel.

Did anyone else see it? Does anyone know what was happening?

I dunno what this means.. but Hayward hasn't earned the right to pull this "DWill stunt" IMO... He is still wildly inconsistent and lacking an unstoppable go-to move on offense.