Cross Marcus Smart off the list of possible Jazz draft picks

[Beantown]

Sounds like this fan deserved it. Even our own John Lucas remembers the guy. Smart's a tough kid. He's a bad ***. This guy probably said something pretty horrible:

https://www.kjrh.com/sports/local-sports/who-is-the-fan-marcus-smart-shoved-espn-reporting-he-is-jeff-orr-texas-tech-red-raiders-super-fan

 

[Nate505]

I hope they still do. The guy has fire. Probably shouldn't have pushed that hick, but I like the fact he cares.

 

[cowhide]

No way the Jazz will draft this guy now...

https://espn.go.com/mens-college-ba...arcus-smart-oklahoma-state-cowboys-shoves-fan

I guess you forgot about the former coach of the Jazz who was know to push around refs. Besides there have been worse transactions from some former Jazz players than this. I highly doubt this would prevent the Jazz from drafting this kid since he has no history of any trouble that I know about that warrants concern.

Is what he did acceptable? No but in the heat of the moment some times people do stupid things. Besides does anyone know what was said to Smart to make him push the fan?

 

[Gameface]

Yeah, I want to know what the fan said and what his history is. Until then I'm not going to judge Smart.

 

[yamers]

 

[Duck Rodgers]

Meh. I'd probably suspend Smart for this week(so probably 2 games, too lazy to look up their schedule) and then I think Tech should tell super fan to stay home for the next home game. Nothing more.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

But what if we could get him with the GSW pick now? :^O

 

[yamers]

But what if we could get him with the GSW pick now? :^O

i'd laugh my *** off.

but i guarantee he is still top 10. kid is a beast.

 

[yamers]

you're telling me exum > smart?

even a lot of nba mock drafts are ****ing ranking exum over smart now? what a joke.

Exum is the darko milicic of the draft

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxXictCDDqA

 

[fishonjazz]

you're telling me exum > smart?

even a lot of nba mock drafts are ****ing ranking exum over smart now? what a joke.

Exum is the darko milicic of the draft

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxXictCDDqA

I think exum has been ranked ahead of smart all along

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Exum was always better than Smart.

 

[Avery]

Would not be one bit surprised to see something racist or offensive thrown out there. Pro and amateur athletes take a daily heckling from fans who would never say something to their face mano y mano. I'm frankly surprised more doesn't happen more often.

I have an olive complexion and only made it as far as playing high school basketball. On road games, I'd have both students and parents calling me names repeatedly. They'd confuse me with being Spanish because they are clueless idiots (mom is from India). This forum will block most of what they would call me, but every single Mexican racial insult you can imagine was thrown at me. Never went after one, but I would literally hope those people would die on their car ride home.

 

[The Thriller]

Meh.

This should happen more often. Fans are so out of control lately. I'd love for more of these drunken idiots to be pounded into dust. Fine, want to make fun of a guy's game? Cool. But You talk **** about a guy's family? Or say anything racial? You deserve everything you get.

I think concerns over his jumper will hurt his draft stock more than this isolated incident.

Personally, I just don't see how he would help the Jazz. Don't we already have a SG who gets to the rim with ease but struggles to shoot from the outside?

 

[TroutBum]

This should happen more often. Fans are so out of control lately. I'd love for more of these drunken idiots to be pounded into dust. Fine, want to make fun of a guy's game? Cool. But You talk **** about a guy's family? Or say anything racial? You deserve everything you get.

I agree with this. However, since I'm giving Smart the benefit of the doubt, how about we give the fan a little bit too? He has openly admitted to being a jerk and apologized, which is pretty rare imo, considering this is just a guy -- not some superstar athlete who has a commissioner and agent forcing him to read some public BS apology at a press conference.

Jeff Orr to a #TexasTech friend of mine via text "I kinda let my mouth say something I shouldn't have,I feel bad" #MarcusSmart
— Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) February 9, 2014

"wasn't vulgar or the N Word" another text from Orr - #MarcusSmart
— Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) February 9, 2014

Text convo from my Tech friend w/Orr- Orr is Tech's biggest fan-everyone knows him, he goes to every game pic.twitter.com/1ZlN6gAdz3
— Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) February 9, 2014

So, a little credit to the old hick, I think. Also, take into consideration that this guy Orr isn't just a casual fan. He's the equivalent to our Rubber Chicken Dr., and gosh, wouldn't it be great to have a bunch of super fans like him? This guy has been passionate about his team winning and losing since before Smart was born.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eoa1Ko_lxE

Still, no excuse to say something offensive, and Smart has no excuse for going at the fan. In the end though, both of these guys deserve props over punishment, imo.

 

[UGLI baby]

I could see myself being the douche bag fan or being the player that pushed him if I was in their shoes, so yeah.

 

[Stifle Tower]

And, amazingly, you're one of the few people who has been on this board for years that actually has less JRC (Jazz related credibility) than me. ****ty takes and ****ty opinions go hand in hand, I suppose.

Quality over quantity. As much I as I like your opinions (SOMETIMES), you often go off into ****ty takes and ****ty opinions. In fact, didn't you make a thread specifically talking about your ummm, output, in the bathroom. I wouldn't say that was of any real value to the board.

And BTW, I just repped Scorp' post.

 

[yamers]

Exum was always better than Smart.

you guys are crazy.

Exum is the most over hyped player in this draft since ****in darko in the lebron draft. 2003? w/e date it was. ****in STAY AWAY FROM EXUM.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I could see myself being the douche bag fan or being the player that pushed him if I was in their shoes, so yeah.

Wonder if PKM is "that fan" at the UK games?

 

[fishonjazz]

you guys are crazy.

Exum is the most over hyped player in this draft since ****in darko in the lebron draft. 2003? w/e date it was. ****in STAY AWAY FROM EXUM.

What are you talking about?

You said that now, because of this incident, exum is being ranked higher than smart.

We simply told you that exum has always been ranked ahead of smart.

If you want to call someone crazy, then the scouts and draft experts should be your target

 

[yamers]

ok so he has been ahead of smart. My mistake.

quite crazy though. People are saying exum is the next kobe or MJ. That's just insane.