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Cross Marcus Smart off the list of possible Jazz draft picks

Just as the old guy was saying "no offense"(probably) so that must have been pretty offensive. I don't blame the kid for that. It is a stupid move nonetheless but I don't think it will hurt his stock much.
 
They showed that, that fan has been pretty rude and offensive the whole season. A lot of players are supporting Smart mostly saying that he shouldn't have reacted, but not to judge him and what not.

That guy had it coming soon enough.
 
Bodhi said:
I'd imagine that fat hillbilly said something pretty "off color". If so, **** him directly in his ***.
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Banjos.



I think what the fan said matters. There is an interesting double standard. A fan can say whatever they want, but the guy that is being pushed to be the best, pushing his body to its physical limits, amped up on adrenalin and riding a strong emotion response to the situation is supposed to just meekly turn around, say "yes sir thank you sir, yes my mother is a ****" and walk away? I think that is unrealistic. Should he be punished for accosting a fan? He probably should, but it should be commensurate with the crime. If I shoot someone who enters my house and attacks my family that is far different than if I draw on someone in a grocery store and shoot them in the back of their head. I would get different punishments in each case, maybe none in the first case, and it should be the same for the athletes. The situation should matter.

That said I would not mind at all having someone with some passion. All we get is Favors furrowing his brow and Corbin straightening his $500 tie. Get someone out there who takes losing personally for once.
 
E.J. Wells said:
I don't know anything about his game, but when was the last time the Jazz had someone with that much passion? I think DuhRon was the last guy who would get pissed off about losing to the point of stupid **** like this. While I guess it could be a red flag, there's something about it that appeals to me. The NBA has lost its intensity and players have lost their insane desire to win at all costs. Good for this kid, imo.



*insert boner joke here* (or in rep)
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LogGrad98 said:
Banjos.



I think what the fan said matters. There is an interesting double standard. A fan can say whatever they want, but the guy that is being pushed to be the best, pushing his body to its physical limits, amped up on adrenalin and riding a strong emotion response to the situation is supposed to just meekly turn around, say "yes sir thank you sir, yes my mother is a ****" and walk away? I think that is unrealistic. Should he be punished for accosting a fan? He probably should, but it should be commensurate with the crime. If I shoot someone who enters my house and attacks my family that is far different than if I draw on someone in a grocery store and shoot them in the back of their head. I would get different punishments in each case, maybe none in the first case, and it should be the same for the athletes. The situation should matter.

That said I would not mind at all having someone with some passion. All we get is Favors furrowing his brow and Corbin straightening his $500 tie. Get someone out there who takes losing personally for once.
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That's part of why I'd be good with Smart (outside the top 5). He's got real fire and leadership about him. And if you've followed his career thus far you'd know he's remarkably poised and mature for his age, despite this incident. I actually think the Jazz FO would really like this kid.
 
Hope they have audio and can tell what the guy said. Some 60 yr old "super fan" thinking he's ALL THAT by getting a reaction from a college player. Probably never played basketball in his life. Smart should get suspended for a couple of games, but that fan should lose his season tickets.
 
LogGrad98 said:
That said I would not mind at all having someone with some passion. All we get is Favors furrowing his brow and Corbin straightening his $500 tie. Get someone out there who takes losing personally for once.
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Would rep if I could. I loath how big of a pùssy Favors is, especially since he looks like he should be scary as hell.
 
Scorpjazz said:
Yes, for sure we need a less talented Artest... what you are calling passion I call lack of self control, but to each his own..
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And, amazingly, you're one of the few people who has been on this board for years that actually has less JRC (Jazz related credibility) than me. ****ty takes and ****ty opinions go hand in hand, I suppose.
 
I hope they still do. The guy has fire. Probably shouldn't have pushed that hick, but I like the fact he cares.
 
akirac73 said:
No way the Jazz will draft this guy now...

https://espn.go.com/mens-college-ba...arcus-smart-oklahoma-state-cowboys-shoves-fan
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I guess you forgot about the former coach of the Jazz who was know to push around refs. Besides there have been worse transactions from some former Jazz players than this. I highly doubt this would prevent the Jazz from drafting this kid since he has no history of any trouble that I know about that warrants concern.

Is what he did acceptable? No but in the heat of the moment some times people do stupid things. Besides does anyone know what was said to Smart to make him push the fan?
 
Yeah, I want to know what the fan said and what his history is. Until then I'm not going to judge Smart.
 
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