Hayward --> Celtics ?
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Doublea
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I wouldn't. Can you imagine if their pick won the lottery, we would have pretty much traded hayward away for nothing.
gregbroncs
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I'd say no deal to that. I'd rather re-sign Williams and Hayward than take Wallace. If they will give up their unprotected pick for Hayward I may bite. Mostly because I don't buy that he is a 10M+ per year guy. But we should not be the ones sweetening that deal. They get a proven commodity we get a chance at a very good draft pick. We are taking the risk they are not. Therefore it is stupid for us to have to add Williams or take on a ****ty contract to make it work.
You haven't touched on the value of BOS unrestricted pick which really is the crown jewel of that trade.
Beantown
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Dumbest comment ever. If you have ever heard Dennis Lindsay talk about Gordan he thinks VERY highly of him. I would easily say that Dennis likes Hayward the most out of the young core.
Beantown
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I stopped reading after the article said "Despite Utah's desperate need for a point guard"
I live near Boston and this is the first time I've heard that they Celtics are interested in trading for him. I have rarely heard any Boston sports guys mention his name. The only recent trade rumors have been the Celtics would be willing to trade Rondo for 2 unprotected first and a young player (Way too much in my opinion).
If the Celtics were able to trade for Hayward they would want to dump a contract (preferably Wallace or Green) especially since Gordon plays the SF/SG position. Bradley is a better player than people think and a lot cheaper. He has had two major shoulder injuries but he seems to have gotten over them. He has improved his shot too. However, the Jazz would need an unprotected pick also if Bradley was the only guy in the trade. I really doubt Ainge is going to give up an unprotected pick just to get Hayward. I know they like him but it is not like they are crazy about him.
I don't remember who posted about Lebron going to Boston. Thanks for the laugh. THere is NO way he is going to Boston.
If the Jazz are truly shopping Gordon they must feel he won't re-sign or he wants too much money. The improved play by Burks gives the Jazz some leverage. The person who suggested that the Jazz trade Hayward, Kanter and two picks... please just stop it and stop taking drugs.
I will be shocked if the Jazz trade Hayward at this point but if they do they better get a top 8 pick for him. I think it will be just as big a surprise if they trade him as it was when they traded DW.
I can't wait for all the meltdowns the next couple of days. I could do with the outrageous trades where we trade five or six assets to get Rondo. Rondo isn't going to re-sign with the Jazz and I think some people overrate him.
If the Celtics were able to trade for Hayward they would want to dump a contract (preferably Wallace or Green) especially since Gordon plays the SF/SG position. Bradley is a better player than people think and a lot cheaper. He has had two major shoulder injuries but he seems to have gotten over them. He has improved his shot too. However, the Jazz would need an unprotected pick also if Bradley was the only guy in the trade. I really doubt Ainge is going to give up an unprotected pick just to get Hayward. I know they like him but it is not like they are crazy about him.
I don't remember who posted about Lebron going to Boston. Thanks for the laugh. THere is NO way he is going to Boston.
If the Jazz are truly shopping Gordon they must feel he won't re-sign or he wants too much money. The improved play by Burks gives the Jazz some leverage. The person who suggested that the Jazz trade Hayward, Kanter and two picks... please just stop it and stop taking drugs.
I will be shocked if the Jazz trade Hayward at this point but if they do they better get a top 8 pick for him. I think it will be just as big a surprise if they trade him as it was when they traded DW.
I can't wait for all the meltdowns the next couple of days. I could do with the outrageous trades where we trade five or six assets to get Rondo. Rondo isn't going to re-sign with the Jazz and I think some people overrate him.
You do know that DL is the Master of the smokescreen right?
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
I don't care what kind of screen you run; Hayward is still gonna miss the shot.
green
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I don't know if I do it either. Like I said, it's a swing for the fences move for both teams. Both could end up with superstars (Utah has 7 unprotected picks and Boston gets a shot at LeBron) or both could end up Sacramento.
If I was presented with that deal, I wouldn't sleep not knowing what to do. If you could get Parker, Gordon and McDermont...sheesh. That's not bad at all. You now look like this:
Burke
Burks
Parker/McDermont
Williams/Gordon
Favors
Plus you still have 5 unprotected firsts the next three years. That is a pretty damn good team. You now have SEVEN lottery picks, FIVE top 10 picks, a superstar, and FIVE more unprotected picks. Wow.
I'd give Kanter up for that. But if you end up with Vonleh, Harris and Saric...yikes.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Yes, but Ainge is a Mo-Mo. Likely wants to have a chance to sit in Parker's pew if they don't have a Sunday game.
Only if it becomes top 3. It's a gamble by both teams.
Fishsticks
Banned
Not so sure about that. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I'd say you have him beat by 6,000 or so.
Any of you guys think the Jazz may be interested in either Sullinger (Burke's childhood friend) or Keylly Olynyk (Jazz was high on him at the draft)?
Or both? Would BOS do that?
Or both? Would BOS do that?
billyshelby
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The Boston first for Hayward is a no brainer, but it will have to require taking on Wallace. But Wallace's contract + Hayward is obviously not worth the first alone. Boston has to sweeten that deal. This is a great game of GM chicken that Lindsey can win if Boston sincerely has interest.