Hayward --> Celtics ?

[sgjazzfan]

Seriously, what is Boston thinking.

Ainge "DL, we want one of your best young players, but we don't want to give up anything for him really, what do you think."

Do they really think they have a chance at Hayward without giving up a first round pick? I don't see anyone on their roster that would be an even swap, and the Jazz aren't going to give up any assets.

 

[billyshelby]

Seriously, what is Boston thinking.

Ainge "DL, we want one of your best young players, but we don't want to give up anything for him really, what do you think."

Do they really think they have a chance at Hayward without giving up a first round pick? I don't see anyone on their roster that would be an even swap, and the Jazz aren't going to give up any assets.

That's how negotiations work. I don't care what has allegedly been offered, I only care if there is genuine interest.

If Boston is really interested, they know they're in a tough spot -- they don't have the cap space to make a competitive RFA offer, could easily lose Hayward to a team that does, and Utah can always match, of course.

If they really want him, the better move is to control his rights as an RFA. Other teams in the league will be less likely to overbid against Boston, a team that is more than able to go over the cap if necessary to keep him.

I'm sure Lindsey knows this is part of his leverage, and Ainge's price will come up, but it all depends on how much Ainge thinks he can eventually get Hayward signed to.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Any of you guys think the Jazz may be interested in either Sullinger (Burke's childhood friend) or Keylly Olynyk (Jazz was high on him at the draft)?


Or both? Would BOS do that?

Sullinger is undersized and had an injury red flag. Can't see why the Jazz would want him when they have Favors and Kanter already. Olynyk is basically Memo 2.0 with half the rebounding. Not terribly exciting.

 

[Doublea]

Sullinger is undersized and had an injury red flag. Can't see why the Jazz would want him when they have Favors and Kanter already. Olynyk is basically Memo 2.0 with half the rebounding. Not terribly exciting.

Yeah, I'd rather not get more projects.

 

[fgcamel]

At a certain point i think we need to think about when we want to be contending for a title and think about whether it's a good idea to be trading away a player nearing his peak (probably not the best wording) for another rookie.

 

[The Midnight]

Yeah, I'd rather not get more projects.

At a certain point i think we need to think about when we want to be contending for a title and think about whether it's a good idea to be trading away a player nearing his peak (probably not the best wording) for another rookie.

Yeah but if Hayward's gonna demand $12m+ in the open market, is it prudent to have all that CA$H locked up on a guy who isn't a great shooter and is wildly inconsistent?


If the answer is "No", then now is the time to cash in and grab some assets & flexibility.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

if this trade goes down it will look something like this

Boston trades

Wallace
humphries
top 3 protected first or unprotected next year

jazz trade

jefferson or biedrins
rush or Williams
Hayward

 

[Jazz4ever]

if this trade goes down it will look something like this

Boston trades

Wallace
humphries
top 3 protected first or unprotected next year

jazz trade

jefferson or biedrins
rush or Williams
Hayward

I don't think DL would take on Wallace's contract even if you remove the protection. He is making 10+ million a year until 2016 and averages 4 points a game.

 

[The Midnight]

I don't think DL would take on Wallace's contract even if you remove the protection. He is making 10+ million a year until 2016 and averages 4 points a game.

LOL.. WTF.. how did BOS got conned into taking Wallace's contract????

 

[framer]

I don't think DL would take on Wallace's contract even if you remove the protection. He is making 10+ million a year until 2016 and averages 4 points a game.

Small price to pay for putting Humphries back on the team. There is nothing more inevitable than Kris Humphries re-suiting up with the Jazz.

Also, Olynyk is like Memo? Child, Please. . . .

 

[Doublea]

LOL.. WTF.. how did BOS got conned into taking Wallace's contract????

Nets trade I think?

 

[Doublea]

Just read some comments from celtic fans and they are just as delusional as we are.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Just read some comments from celtic fans and they are just as delusional as we are.

Well, that's encouraging. Yeah, they think we should take Wallace and Avery Bradley or something.

 

[Doublea]

Well, that's encouraging. Yeah, they think we should take Wallace and Avery Bradley or something.

Most of them are just like, let's just trade Green for Hayward straight up. Then others are like, that's way to much!

 

[NUMBERICA]

If these samples of their opinions are at all representative of the group, then they are far more delusional than we are.

 

[ljnapoli]

Would be happy with Hayward for Wallace and Bos (unprotected) 1st. We aren't competing anytime this year or next so who cares if we take on Wallace's salary, it'll be an expiring contraxt next year so we could probably trade it away anyway if we really need to. + Hayward is a scrub, I'd take any of the projected top 9 over him.

 

[Primetime]

Seriously guys seven pages about pure speculation? The guy said the Celtics are interested in Gordon. Is that some kind of new news? He did not even talk about a trade scenario and is just throwing out names. Laughable!

But while I'm at it. You just do a trade with expiring players and there unprotected pick. Oh and you just do that if you as the Jazz GM feel comfortable that they finish bottom 5! We don't need a 8th-9th pick. If that's where we think they finish than you don't do it. You would just get a Gordon type player who needs time to develop and is nowhere near the player Wiggins or Parker is.

 

[homeytennis]

Seriously guys seven pages about pure speculation? The guy said the Celtics are interested in Gordon. Is that some kind of new news? He did not even talk about a trade scenario and is just throwing out names. Laughable!

But while I'm at it. You just do a trade with expiring players and there unprotected pick. Oh and you just do that if you as the Jazz GM feel comfortable that they finish bottom 5! We don't need a 8th-9th pick. If that's where we think they finish than you don't do it. You would just get a Gordon type player who needs time to develop and is nowhere near the player Wiggins or Parker is.

From the League's website:
: Report: Celtics interested in Jazz’s Hayward — This is one trade rumor that isn’t that hard to understand if you can play a simple game of connect the dots. Before he was Utah’s leading scorer, Gordon Hayward was a star at Butler University from 2008-10 and helped the Bulldogs to the NCAA championship game in 2010. His coach at Butler? Brad Stevens … who is now the first-year coach of the Boston Celtics. A Hayward-Stevens reunion has been much talked about when it comes to Hayward, who will be a free agent this summer and could pair up with his old coach in Boston. But according to CSNNE.com’s A. Sherrod Blakely, the Celtics are interested in trying to get Hayward sooner than that:

The Celtics have expressed some interest in acquiring Utah’s Gordon Hayward, a league source tells CSNNE.com.

Hayward, who starred for Celtics head coach Brad Stevens while at Butler, will become a restricted free agent this summer after he and the Jazz could not come to terms on an extension this past fall.

The biggest challenge appears to be finding assets currently on the Celtics’ roster that are appealing to the Jazz.

Despite Utah’s desperate need for a point guard, there’s little interest in Rajon Rondo primarily because they don’t anticipate he’ll re-sign with the club beyond his current contract which is up in the summer of 2015.

Jeff Green is another option, but the Jazz aren’t all that interested in him, either.

It would appear the one thing that might nudge Utah towards giving serious thought to dealing Hayward, would be if the Celtics were willing to part with at least one of their stockpiled first-round picks.

But two league sources, both having had recent conversations with the Celtics, told CSNNE.com on Tuesday that Boston is “very reluctant” to part with any of their first-round picks in facilitating a deal.

In fact, Boston appears focused on adding more picks or assets with any deal they strike between now and the trade deadline.

 

[akirac73]

We don't need a 8th-9th pick. If that's where we think they finish than you don't do it. You would just get a Gordon type player who needs time to develop and is nowhere near the player Wiggins or Parker is.

Totally disagree...with an 8th or 9th pick there are always good players available in this range, plus this is a deep draft. If the Jazz play their cards right (I always believed KOC sucked in the draft with the exception of D-will and all those second round "steals") we could land a player that is a difference maker. Some recent players available in the 8th and above spots in prior drafts:
Andre Drummond, Klay Thompson, Alec Burks, Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, Eric Bledsoe, DeMar DeRozan, Brook Lopez, Roy Hibbert, Andrew Bynum.

I'd definitely take an unprotected 1st for Hayward in THIS draft.

 

[franklin]

Hayward does nothing to anchor the Jazz' defense and will cost more than he's worth. He's not a DL guy; it's dumb to say he's not being shopped.

I'm ready to move on from Hayward. The Jazz need two stars in order for him to be a piece on a contender. They have zero, with zero prospects in the pipeline.