Hayward --> Celtics ?

[Primetime]

Seriously guys seven pages about pure speculation? The guy said the Celtics are interested in Gordon. Is that some kind of new news? He did not even talk about a trade scenario and is just throwing out names. Laughable!

But while I'm at it. You just do a trade with expiring players and there unprotected pick. Oh and you just do that if you as the Jazz GM feel comfortable that they finish bottom 5! We don't need a 8th-9th pick. If that's where we think they finish than you don't do it. You would just get a Gordon type player who needs time to develop and is nowhere near the player Wiggins or Parker is.

 

[homeytennis]

Seriously guys seven pages about pure speculation? The guy said the Celtics are interested in Gordon. Is that some kind of new news? He did not even talk about a trade scenario and is just throwing out names. Laughable!

But while I'm at it. You just do a trade with expiring players and there unprotected pick. Oh and you just do that if you as the Jazz GM feel comfortable that they finish bottom 5! We don't need a 8th-9th pick. If that's where we think they finish than you don't do it. You would just get a Gordon type player who needs time to develop and is nowhere near the player Wiggins or Parker is.

From the League's website:
: Report: Celtics interested in Jazz’s Hayward — This is one trade rumor that isn’t that hard to understand if you can play a simple game of connect the dots. Before he was Utah’s leading scorer, Gordon Hayward was a star at Butler University from 2008-10 and helped the Bulldogs to the NCAA championship game in 2010. His coach at Butler? Brad Stevens … who is now the first-year coach of the Boston Celtics. A Hayward-Stevens reunion has been much talked about when it comes to Hayward, who will be a free agent this summer and could pair up with his old coach in Boston. But according to CSNNE.com’s A. Sherrod Blakely, the Celtics are interested in trying to get Hayward sooner than that:

The Celtics have expressed some interest in acquiring Utah’s Gordon Hayward, a league source tells CSNNE.com.

Hayward, who starred for Celtics head coach Brad Stevens while at Butler, will become a restricted free agent this summer after he and the Jazz could not come to terms on an extension this past fall.

The biggest challenge appears to be finding assets currently on the Celtics’ roster that are appealing to the Jazz.

Despite Utah’s desperate need for a point guard, there’s little interest in Rajon Rondo primarily because they don’t anticipate he’ll re-sign with the club beyond his current contract which is up in the summer of 2015.

Jeff Green is another option, but the Jazz aren’t all that interested in him, either.

It would appear the one thing that might nudge Utah towards giving serious thought to dealing Hayward, would be if the Celtics were willing to part with at least one of their stockpiled first-round picks.

But two league sources, both having had recent conversations with the Celtics, told CSNNE.com on Tuesday that Boston is “very reluctant” to part with any of their first-round picks in facilitating a deal.

In fact, Boston appears focused on adding more picks or assets with any deal they strike between now and the trade deadline.

 

[akirac73]

We don't need a 8th-9th pick. If that's where we think they finish than you don't do it. You would just get a Gordon type player who needs time to develop and is nowhere near the player Wiggins or Parker is.

Totally disagree...with an 8th or 9th pick there are always good players available in this range, plus this is a deep draft. If the Jazz play their cards right (I always believed KOC sucked in the draft with the exception of D-will and all those second round "steals") we could land a player that is a difference maker. Some recent players available in the 8th and above spots in prior drafts:
Andre Drummond, Klay Thompson, Alec Burks, Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, Eric Bledsoe, DeMar DeRozan, Brook Lopez, Roy Hibbert, Andrew Bynum.

I'd definitely take an unprotected 1st for Hayward in THIS draft.

 

[franklin]

Hayward does nothing to anchor the Jazz' defense and will cost more than he's worth. He's not a DL guy; it's dumb to say he's not being shopped.

I'm ready to move on from Hayward. The Jazz need two stars in order for him to be a piece on a contender. They have zero, with zero prospects in the pipeline.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Nets trade I think?

Yes. They had to take back contracts in order to deal all those vets to Brooklyn. So unlike Lindsey, who just allowed Millsap and Big Al to "walk for nothing," Ainge took back contracts. Humphries was no big deal; it expires this year. But the Wallace contract is a killer. They are handcuffed in free agency. I sure am glad we don't have a GM taking on long-term trash. Instead, I'm sure DL has emphatically said, "we know you can't make an offer to Hayward this summer. You won't have cap space unless/until you trade Rajon. And by that time, we'll have either re-signed Gordon or he'll have signed an offer sheet with someone else. So call me back if you're willing to give up your pick with no restrictions. Nice speaking with you Danny. Keep in touch."

 

[fishonjazz]

Oh and you just do that if you as the Jazz GM feel comfortable that they finish bottom 5! We don't need a 8th-9th pick. If that's where we think they finish than you don't do it. You would just get a Gordon type player who needs time to develop and is nowhere near the player Wiggins or Parker is.

You are forgetting that losing hayward makes our own pick better and increases our chance at jabari wiggins

 

[Stifle Tower]

Seriously guys seven pages about pure speculation? The guy said the Celtics are interested in Gordon. Is that some kind of new news? He did not even talk about a trade scenario and is just throwing out names. Laughable!

But while I'm at it. You just do a trade with expiring players and there unprotected pick. Oh and you just do that if you as the Jazz GM feel comfortable that they finish bottom 5! We don't need a 8th-9th pick. If that's where we think they finish than you don't do it. You would just get a Gordon type player who needs time to develop and is nowhere near the player Wiggins or Parker is.

Yep. Seven pages and it's pure speculation. I know what's going to happen: NOTHING and we're going to spend the next several seasons reading "fire DL" threads because he didn't trade Hayward. Boston is bottom-feeding. They think Utah is desperate to deal Gordon because he turned down a contract offer. So they're offering nothing of real value. Hayward > 1 1/2 years of Rondo (almost no chance he re-signs). Hayward > Green.

Gordon was a #9 pick. He may not be a star, but he's a proven commodity. All the prospects that will be on the board with the Boston pick are just that - prospects. Give Hayward to Boston and that pick ends up #9. Of course, Utah's may improve to #6. But at #9, you're just as likely to get a Cole Aldrich as you are a Gordon Hayward. More likely to get a role player than Paul George. There's a chance - albeit a small one - that the pick jumps to top-3. And for that reason, Boston is not going to let the pick go.

 

[Primetime]

You are forgetting that losing hayward makes our own pick better and increases our chance at jabari wiggins

That train was gone a long long time ago. I thought you know that fish...

 

[fishonjazz]

That train was gone a long long time ago. I thought you know that fish...

It could get back on track if we traded hayward for a pick and continue holding guys out of games for minor injuries (favors is a gametime decision tonight, along with jeffy)

 

[kabenac]

I can't see this trade happening. According to Hoops Hype, we're not interested in Green or Rondo (because Rondo will bolt). So who does that leave? I doubt they'll trade Olynick or Sullinger, and it's always been reported Boston doesn't want to trade either first round pick to us. So what's left?

 

[Doublea]

I can't see this trade happening. According to Hoops Hype, we're not interested in Green or Rondo (because Rondo will bolt). So who does that leave? I doubt they'll trade Olynick or Sullinger, and it's always been reported Boston doesn't want to trade either first round pick to us. So what's left?

There was never a trade, just that the Celtics were interested in Hayward. So the Jazz looked into it and the Celtics said they didn't want to trade much.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I can't see this trade happening. According to Hoops Hype, we're not interested in Green or Rondo (because Rondo will bolt). So who does that leave? I doubt they'll trade Olynick or Sullinger, and it's always been reported Boston doesn't want to trade either first round pick to us. So what's left?

I'm sure they'd trade Olynick or Sullinger for Hayward. But Utah wouldn't take either as compensation. And a #18 pick (the 2nd Boston pick) ain't gonna get a deal done. Hayward is a proven player, invited to nat'l team workouts. He's top-10 value. And there's the rub; Boston doesn't want to give up a top-10 pick for fear it jumps into the top-3. And if the Jazz were to allow any protection (and Boston got lucky), Utah would get a pick in the late teens next year. So, you're right. This "rumor" was nothing more than wishful thinking by someone who put ex-college coach and player together and then floated completely one-sided ways that Boston could make a deal.