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What next? 2014-15 Cap & Tax Space

Sorry for the confusion. Here is the 2015/16 outlook. I think we WILL have cap space after accounting for new contracts and the various cap holds. Cap space only disappears after Kanter and Burks are signed for more than their holds. GVC, please correct if I'm wrong under the new CBA rules.
[TABLE="width: 252"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl80, width: 177, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl82, width: 158, bgcolor: white"]2015/16
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]D. Favors
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 12,000,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]E. Kanter
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: white"]$ 7,471,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]G. Hayward
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl71, bgcolor: #c4d79b"]$ 10,000,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]T. Burke
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 2,658,240
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]A. Burks
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: white"]$ 4,175,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]R. Gobert
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,175,880
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]R. Neto
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,000,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2014 -# 6 Pick
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 3,500,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2014 -#23 Pick
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,400,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2014 -#36 Pick
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 600,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2015 - #20 Pick
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,200,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]Player #12 (2nd rd DP)
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 400,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]Player #13 (2nd rd DP)
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 300,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl73, bgcolor: white"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]Total Salaries
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 45,880,120
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2013/14 Cap
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: white"]$ 58,679,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"]2013/14 Tax
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: white"]$ 71,748,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl74, bgcolor: white"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: transparent"]Cap Space
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: white"]$ 12,798,880
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"]Tax Space
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: white"]$ 25,867,880
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl81, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Core4 said:
Sorry for the confusion. Here is the 2015/16 outlook. I think we WILL have cap space after accounting for new contracts and the various cap holds. Cap space only disappears after Kanter and Burks are signed for more than their holds. GVC, please correct if I'm wrong under the new CBA rules.
[TABLE="width: 252"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl80, width: 177, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl82, width: 158, bgcolor: white"]2015/16
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]D. Favors
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 12,000,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]E. Kanter
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: white"]$ 7,471,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]G. Hayward
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl71, bgcolor: #c4d79b"]$ 10,000,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]T. Burke
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 2,658,240
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]A. Burks
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: white"]$ 4,175,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]R. Gobert
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,175,880
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]R. Neto
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,000,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2014 -# 6 Pick
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 3,500,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2014 -#23 Pick
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,400,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2014 -#36 Pick
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 600,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2015 - #20 Pick
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,200,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]Player #12 (2nd rd DP)
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 400,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]Player #13 (2nd rd DP)
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 300,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl73, bgcolor: white"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]Total Salaries
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 45,880,120
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2013/14 Cap
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: white"]$ 58,679,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"]2013/14 Tax
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: white"]$ 71,748,000
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl74, bgcolor: white"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: transparent"]Cap Space
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: white"]$ 12,798,880
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"]Tax Space
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: white"]$ 25,867,880
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl81, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Here is my calculation:

8Y6FWG.png


A couple of things:
1. The cap holds after the rookie contract are either 200% or 250% of the previous salary (Depends on the average league salary!)
2. At least 12 roster spots count against the cap. Free roster spots are charged with a cap hold of the league minimum.
3. 2nd round draft picks don't have a cap hold.

It is a strong possibility that the salary cap and the luxury tax treshold will increase a couple millions over the next years but I think we have to be activ after this season! This will give us the better financial flexibility to have a stronger roster.
 
Core4 said:
Sorry for the confusion. Here is the 2015/16 outlook. I think we WILL have cap space after accounting for new contracts and the various cap holds. Cap space only disappears after Kanter and Burks are signed for more than their holds. GVC, please correct if I'm wrong under the new CBA rules.
[TABLE="width: 252"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl80, width: 177, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl82, width: 158, bgcolor: white"]2015/16 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]D. Favors[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 12,000,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]E. Kanter[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: white"]$ 7,471,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]G. Hayward[/TD]
[TD="class: xl71, bgcolor: #c4d79b"]$ 10,000,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]T. Burke[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 2,658,240 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]A. Burks[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: white"]$ 4,175,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: white"]R. Gobert[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,175,880 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]R. Neto[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,000,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2014 -# 6 Pick[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 3,500,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2014 -#23 Pick[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,400,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2014 -#36 Pick[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 600,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2015 - #20 Pick[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 1,200,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]Player #12 (2nd rd DP)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 400,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]Player #13 (2nd rd DP)[/TD]
[TD="class: xl72, bgcolor: white"]$ 300,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl73, bgcolor: white"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]Total Salaries[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"]$ 45,880,120 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: white"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: white"]2013/14 Cap[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: white"]$ 58,679,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"]2013/14 Tax[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: white"]$ 71,748,000 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl74, bgcolor: white"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: transparent"]Cap Space[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: white"]$ 12,798,880 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent"]Tax Space[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: white"]$ 25,867,880 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl81, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Looks like you're right, although it'll depend on extensions for Alec and Kanter (if they're extended this summer). Also, are the 1st round rookie salaries 125% scale (the vast majority get 125% of the rookie scale)?

And yes, the Jazz could sign free agents with that cap space and then match an offer sheet (or offer a contract) to Alec/Kanter that takes them above the cap.
 
10 for Hayward is not very realistic in my opinion. As an RFA, an opposing team has to start the bidding at 12 if they hope we'll flinch. And if he gets no offers, there is no guarantee Hayward will just take 10 for 4. He'd be stupid not to, but he does have UFA as leverage, the Olympic phoniness, another year to play, and Lindsey might feel the need to go higher just to lock him in. I hope he doesn't.
 
GVC said:
Looks like you're right, although it'll depend on extensions for Alec and Kanter (if they're extended this summer). Also, are the 1st round rookie salaries 125% scale (the vast majority get 125% of the rookie scale)?

And yes, the Jazz could sign free agents with that cap space and then match an offer sheet (or offer a contract) to Alec/Kanter that takes them above the cap.
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For the rookie contracts, I used the salaries of those drafted 6, 23 and 36 in 2013. I see an error in 2015. Obviously if we had the #20 it would be higher than the #23 pick in 2014. I hit a 2 instead of a 5. I guess shamsports has the wrong amounts for Kanter and Burks if Primetime's numbers hold. In that case, if the Jazz wait to extend Burks and Kanter, then they'll have only enough cap space for a mid-tier FA. The 2nd scenario is likely far-fetched. But if Kanter MERITS $14M it means we have our superstar!
 
Core4 said:
For the rookie contracts, I used the salaries of those drafted 6, 23 and 36 in 2013. I see an error in 2015. Obviously if we had the #20 it would be higher than the #23 pick in 2014. I hit a 2 instead of a 5. I guess shamsports has the wrong amounts for Kanter and Burks if Primetime's numbers hold. In that case, if the Jazz wait to extend Burks and Kanter, then they'll have only enough cap space for a mid-tier FA. The 2nd scenario is likely far-fetched. But if Kanter MERITS $14M it means we have our superstar!
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The numbers I used are their cap holds and not what I think they will get paid. You know that, right?

Kanters cap hold will either be 200% or 250% of his last salary. If it is below the league average salary it will be 250%, if it is above it will be 200%. And the projected average salary for next season so far is $5.565 million, that would be below his last years salary and therefore his cap hold would be $14,236,685. If the average salary increases next season(will probably happen!) than his cap hold will be around $11,400 milion.
 
Primetime said:
The numbers I used are their cap holds and not what I think they will get paid. You know that, right?

Kanters cap hold will either be 200% or 250% of his last salary. If it is below the league average salary it will be 250%, if it is above it will be 200%. And the projected average salary for next season so far is $5.565 million, that would be below his last years salary and therefore his cap hold would be $14,236,685. If the average salary increases next season(will probably happen!) than his cap hold will be around $11,400 milion.
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Good catch; I wasn't looking that closely. Looks like Core4 used Qualifying Offer numbers instead of cap holds.
 
Primetime said:
Here is my calculation:

8Y6FWG.png


A couple of things:
1. The cap holds after the rookie contract are either 200% or 250% of the previous salary (Depends on the average league salary!)
2. At least 12 roster spots count against the cap. Free roster spots are charged with a cap hold of the league minimum.
3. 2nd round draft picks don't have a cap hold.

It is a strong possibility that the salary cap and the luxury tax treshold will increase a couple millions over the next years but I think we have to be activ after this season! This will give us the better financial flexibility to have a stronger roster.
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A couple points:

1. Rookies generally get signed to 120% of the rookie scale, so you may want to bump those rookie salaries up by 20% (you've also included the salary for the 2014 #22 pick, not #21 pick).

2. You can drop one of the roster charges one calculating cap space, as that amount can go toward the 12th man being acquired in free agency or by trade.

It'll be interesting to see what the estimated average salary is for 2014/15, as it could make a fairly big difference in 2015 Jazz cap space (as you've shown). Enes will make $5,694,674 next season, and the estimated average salary for this season is $5.565mm. I'm not that hopeful that number stays low enough to keep Enes's cap hold down.
 
GVC said:
Good catch; I wasn't looking that closely. Looks like Core4 used Qualifying Offer numbers instead of cap holds.
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Yep, my mistake. Thanks for the charts, Primetime.
So what it looks like is we'll have cap space, if it's not used in 2014, for a mid-level player. I'm assuming Burks signs for more than his hold and Enes for much less than $14M. And the non-cap exception which isn't worth very much.

Conclusion: need to pursue a good trade this off-season to take advantage of the cap room Utah will have and which then largely disappears in 2015.
 
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