Then you need to open your eyes. He is a perfect 2nd-3rd option. He passes well for his position, makes catch and shoot baskets and can play good D. He is an ideal player to support an allstar/superstar.
Locke's endless apologies for Hayward.
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Then you need to open your eyes. He is a perfect 2nd-3rd option. He passes well for his position, makes catch and shoot baskets and can play good D. He is an ideal player to support an allstar/superstar.
akirac73
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- Someone left a window open in the ESA, so there's a draft blowing Gordon's shots off course.
- The fans are too loud, it's throwing off his rhythm...he can't concentrate.
Glue guy, & off-ball shooter with some end of clock pnr ability. Let's not forget he drove as well as Burks when he was in the role Burks is now in, and shot threes as well as Jefferson and Marvin when in those roles. I'll take that shooting driving combination any day (but I don't know what his value is and worry he'll be overpaid).
akirac73
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I'd agree that Hayward would be better fit as a 2nd or 3rd option on the Jazz (IF WE HAD A SUPERSTAR). But if you're building a championship caliber team, I think Hayward is more like a 4th option. For comparison/discussion purposes:
If he were on the Pacers, he'd be the 4th best player behind George, Hibbert, and Stephenson.
If he were on the Thunder, he'd be the 4th best player behind Durrant, Westbrook, and Ibaka
If he were on the Trailblazers, he'd be the the 4th best player behind Lillard, Aldridge, and Matthews
If he were on the Heat, he'd be the 4th best player behind LBJ, Wade, and Bosh.
If he were on the Spurs, he'd be the 4th best player behind Parker, Duncan, and Ginobili
If he were on the Rockets, he'd be the 4th best player behind Harden, Howard, and Parsons
If he were on the Clippers, he'd be the 4th best player behind Griffin, CP3, and Crawford
Are you saying offensive option, or just overall better player?
There are some players on those list who are better than Hayward, but I wouldn't put them ahead on an offensive option list.
Guys like Howard, Hibbert, and Ibaka are all better players, but I wouldn't say they are really "options" on those teams. Especially Hibbert, he has been shooting 41% from the field in 2014, which is equally embarrassing for big man to be shooting that poorly as Hayward's recent shooting struggles.
akirac73
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Maybe a bit of both. If you really need a basket, I think all of the players listed are better scoring options (other than the players on the list that are post players - Hibbert, Howard, Ibaka) than Hayward.
That FG% by Hibbert is a shocker for sure...especially for a 7 footer.
None of those teams could afford a Hayward as a fourth option, so this isn't a moot point.
akirac73
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I agree. Especially for what Hayward expects/wants to be paid.
addictionary
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Personal comparisonwise yes. But if the play runs theough them in a position then it's the right opt. If you go for the shooter, they already have better shooters than him. Whereever the defending team gives the space, Hay is left fourth.
