14th Tank Platoon

[Saint Cy of JFC]

This post is also funny because you say burks is good...... but not on the other guys level.

I know that is pretty hard to follow but I will try to explain it to you with symbols:

Favors > Hayward > Kanter > Burke > Other dudes in the NBA who are better than Burks > Burks > Average NBA player

 

[mellow]

Michael Pointer: #Pacers coach Frank Vogel says George, West and Stephenson will not play tomorrow in Orlando.

#3 is still possible?

 

[fishonjazz]

^^^^^ kind of a dick tbh.

It would be really easy to just say "i think burks is the 5th best of the core5" instead of "not on thier level" and making a big seperation
Especially when talking with someone who is supposed to be your friend.

Attacking me in the ugli forum was a nice touch.

Guess im starting to understand why stoked, triple k and others feel how they do about ya.

Carry on

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

^^^^^ kind of a dick tbh.

It would be really easy to just say "i think burks is the 5th best of the core5" instead of "not on thier level" and making a big seperation
Especially when talking with someone who is supposed to be your friend.

Attacking me in the ugli forum was a nice touch.

Guess im starting to understand why stoked, triple k and others feel how they do about ya.

Carry on

Kind of ****ed up to call Mellow a dick tbh.

 

[spycam1]

Michael Pointer: #Pacers coach Frank Vogel says George, West and Stephenson will not play tomorrow in Orlando.

#3 is still possible?

 

[fishonjazz]

Kind of ****ed up to call Mellow a dick tbh.

In reality i called you a retard first so maybe im the dick.

He who casts the first stone and all that jazz

 

[spycam1]

In reality i called you a retard first so maybe im the dick.

He who casts the first stone and all that jazz

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Then Jesus picked up a rock and pegged her between the eyes.

 

[ljnapoli]

I can't go on record saying I agree with Cy, as I haven seen his whole body of work on Burks, but to an extent I agree. I think he could be a decent starter somewhere. I think his absolute ceiling is a Wesley Mathews caliber but I think more realistically be a Nick Young. I think Burks has a few key things where he really excels, but overall versatility I would take Hayward. If, fingers crossed, we land a Jabari or Wiggins, then I think what Burks brings to the table is, at best, redundant. Hayward, on the other hand, in my opinion, would pretty conplementary. I prefer to keep all of Burke, Hayward, Favors and Kanter and let the chips fall where they will with the other guys.

lol okay

 

[Zulu]

You do realize Burks is awesome Cy!!!!

 

[Doublea]

Burks could easily average 22pts on 47% shooting in the starting lineup.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Michael Pointer: #Pacers coach Frank Vogel says George, West and Stephenson will not play tomorrow in Orlando.

#3 is still possible?

Excellent, although there still would be a chance Roy Hibbert goes off for 9 points.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Seems like no one is mentioning a pretty interesting scenario. Indiana could sit their starters against Orlando. Ya know, with them clinching and all.

I counted on that and also SA resting their starters (of course, with the loss to the Lakers we don't need SA's help now).
Glad to hear Indiana has announced that Paul, West and Stephenson will be out. They still should have more than enough to win against Orlando as the subs stepped up when those players PLUS Hibbert and Hill rested against Milwaukee.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Burks isn't on Burke's level? lol

Because obviously a guy who can create his own shot and put up 46%/35% <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< a player who shot 38%/33%. Alec doubled his scoring average as his minutes per/game rose from 18 to 28. I think the last couple of games showed us the value of having some scoring punch off the bench. Replace MW and RJ with an alpha scorer and a defensive presence. Then keep Burks and/or Kanter coming off the bench. You can only have so many offensive-minded guys on the starting unit. SA found the perfect balance by having Manu be their 6th man. I'd like to see Alec continue in that role next year, but get at least 30 mins/per.

 

[Doublea]

Because obviously a guy who can create his own shot and put up 46%/35% <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< a player who shot 38%/33%. Alec doubled his scoring average as his minutes per/game rose from 18 to 28. I think the last couple of games showed us the value of having some scoring punch off the bench. Replace MW and RJ with an alpha scorer and a defensive presence. Then keep Burks and/or Kanter coming off the bench. You can only have so many offensive-minded guys on the starting unit. SA found the perfect balance by having Manu be their 6th man. I'd like to see Alec continue in that role next year, but get at least 30 mins/per.

Didn't Manu start for a while though??? Why not see what one of our best players can do in a starting lineup?

 

[Stifle Tower]

Didn't Manu start for a while though??? Why not see what one of our best players can do in a starting lineup?

Yes he did. And Burks could certainly start. Guess it depends on who the Jazz draft and what Corbin's plans are now that he'll finally have a NBA team to coach instead of a team designed for the tank. Ty is an offensive genius and I have full faith he'll do what's best for the success of the Jazz. Besides, after the Jazz draft another couple of 20-yr olds, Alec will FINALLY be a veteran by comparison. Let's just keep our fingers crossed and hope Lindsey doesn't trade for or sign another old-timer like Bell, Howard or Jefferson.

 

[fishonjazz]

Because obviously a guy who can create his own shot and put up 46%/35% <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< a player who shot 38%/33%.

Dont forget all the trips to the line that trey burke gets

 

[♪alt13]

Dont forget all the trips to the line that trey burke gets

Trey Burke MUST get to the line next year if he wants to continue to be a starter. I'm still not convinced he won't become a backup pg, anyway.

His D is nonexistent. Did he even take a single charging foul this year? His shooting is average at best. He doesn't penetrate particularly well. I can't think of a single "elite' aspect to his game. What does Burke do that makes him effective enough to start?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Trey Burke MUST get to the line next year if he wants to continue to be a starter. I'm still not convinced he won't become a backup pg, anyway.

His D is nonexistent. Did he even take a single charging foul this year? His shooting is average at best. He doesn't penetrate particularly well. I can't think of a single "elite' aspect to his game. What does Burke do that makes him effective enough to start?

He doesn't make a lot of TO mistakes which is nice.

He has proven to be clutch.

Needs to improve shot selection and defense.

Don't really have much hope for him improving his FTA that much. Just something you can do, or can't do. Some players improve in that category a lot because they wildly improve their ball-handling, but Burke is already a pretty good ball handler.

 

[fishonjazz]

He doesn't make a lot of TO mistakes which is nice.

He has proven to be clutch.


but Burke is already a pretty good ball handler.

This is a good foundation for a rookie and as long as we get a star player at a different position (preferable a wing player imo) then burke will most likely end up being "good enough"

 

[♪alt13]

He doesn't make a lot of TO mistakes which is nice.

He has proven to be clutch.

Needs to improve shot selection and defense.

Don't really have much hope for him improving his FTA that much. Just something you can do, or can't do. Some players improve in that category a lot because they wildly improve their ball-handling, but Burke is already a pretty good ball handler.

This isn't super convincing.