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Last draft I was down on Shabazz

jazzfan1971

jazzfan1971

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Had some pretty good debates with some of you folks that liked Shabazz. I'd like to say I was right and you all were wrong, but, it's a little early for that, we need a couple more years before we can really judge Shabazz. But, it's safe to say he isn't in the running for any rookie of the year awards.

This year I'm down on Randle. I wanted to give you folks a chance to get in here and support him or bash him as you see it.

I see him as a bust. I don't think he'll be able to contribute to an NBA team now or in the future as a starting PF. Maybe he'll carve out a roll as a reserve. But, I think he is going to quickly wash out of the NBA instead.

Offensively he won't be able to bully defenders like he has in college. And with only being able to handle the ball with one hand, it should be rather easy to stop dribble penetration. I don't believe he has the touch to be a jumphooting threat. Long story short, I don't see how he will score.

On the defensive side of the ball it's just as bad if not worse. He's got short arms and poor awareness. So, a liability on both ends of the floor.
 
jazzfan1971 said:
Had some pretty good debates with some of you folks that liked Shabazz. I'd like to say I was right and you all were wrong, but, it's a little early for that, we need a couple more years before we can really judge Shabazz. But, it's safe to say he isn't in the running for any rookie of the year awards.

This year I'm down on Randle. I wanted to give you folks a chance to get in here and support him or bash him as you see it.

I see him as a bust. I don't think he'll be able to contribute to an NBA team now or in the future as a starting PF. Maybe he'll carve out a roll as a reserve. But, I think he is going to quickly wash out of the NBA instead.

Offensively he won't be able to bully defenders like he has in college. And with only being able to handle the ball with one hand, it should be rather easy to stop dribble penetration. I don't believe he has the touch to be a jumphooting threat. Long story short, I don't see how he will score.

On the defensive side of the ball it's just as bad if not worse. He's got short arms and poor awareness. So, a liability on both ends of the floor.
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If he's picked top 4-5, then yes he'll be a bust, but I see him as a good pro.
 
Randle would be OUTSTANDING if you could get him at 10 or later. I think he is the kind of guy who can absolutely be an impact rookie but simply doesn't have the ceiling of some of the top 5 guys.

Very wary of him top 5-6, awesome if you were a good team already who needed one more piece (think Portland last year).
 
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I just want Parker so we can silence any of these discussions.
 
Raptor arms and undersized for position = no good. He can't shoot the 3, his "monster strength" isn't really that strong by NBA standards. Beyond the arms and height, the kid is just too slow to defend. His handles that everyone thought he had are non-existant. He has a nack for rebounding--at the college level, but it panning out in the pro's isn't a sure thing when you think about his short arms and how undersized he is.

I feel like any team who takes him in the top 10 will be sorely disapointed.
 
Sexual Favors said:
Raptor arms and undersized for position = no good. He can't shoot the 3, his "monster strength" isn't really that strong by NBA standards. Beyond the arms and height, the kid is just too slow to defend. His handles that everyone thought he had are non-existant. He has a nack for rebounding--at the college level, but it panning out in the pro's isn't a sure thing when you think about his short arms and how undersized he is.

I feel like any team who takes him in the top 10 will be sorely disapointed.
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Pretty fair assessment. Not to mention his average explosiveness.

I would say anyone in the top 5 will be disappointed... I'd still take him in the top 10.

I think he goes 7th or 8th.
 
I now have Vonleh ahead of Randle and likely Gordon and Smart too (ahead of Randle). That said, I don't think Randle will be a "bust", per se. His motor and aggressiveness will allow him to be a really solid player, IMO. Worthy of a top 10 pick, IMO.
 
He won't be a bust if he's allowed to play the Small Forward position (his natural position). His strength lies in abusing the opposing team's wing, with the ball in his hand creating for others, and slashing with a 2-3 step run up to the hoop.



But I suspect most coaches won't have the foresight to do that. He's too undersized to play the PF position in the NBA and he's not a good enough shooter to play the stretch 4.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
He won't be a bust if he's allowed to play the Small Forward position (his natural position).



But I suspect most coaches won't have the foresight to do that. He's too undersized to play the PF position in the NBA as he's not a good enough shooter to play the stretch 4.
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Hotttnickkk said:
He won't be a bust if he's allowed to play the Small Forward position (his natural position). His strength lies in abusing the opposing team's wing, with the ball in his hand creating for others, and slashing with a 2-3 step run up to the hoop.



But I suspect most coaches won't have the foresight to do that. He's too undersized to play the PF position in the NBA and he's not a good enough shooter to play the stretch 4.
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He would more or less be playing Hayward's exact role from this season then. I don't know we need such a player going forward, unless Burke's development doesn't improve much.
 
Jazz4ever said:
He would more or less be playing Hayward's exact role from this season then. I don't know we need such a player going forward, unless Burke's development doesn't improve much.
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We can play Hayward at 2, I don't see a problem with that at all. It's will be a BIG lineup with Randle at 3 and Hayward at 2. Both can pass it. Both can slash. Both can create off the dribble.
 
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Sexual Favors said:
Raptor arms and undersized for position = no good. He can't shoot the 3, his "monster strength" isn't really that strong by NBA standards. Beyond the arms and height, the kid is just too slow to defend. His handles that everyone thought he had are non-existant. He has a nack for rebounding--at the college level, but it panning out in the pro's isn't a sure thing when you think about his short arms and how undersized he is.

I feel like any team who takes him in the top 10 will be sorely disapointed.
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that was my concern when i was evaluating psycho t
 
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