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DLeague Affiliate and Murph

It wouldn't hurt to invite him to summer league. Kid can shoot.

Especially considering Hoopshype is reporting that the Jazz are interested in PJ Harrison, which I assume is at 23. Save the pick and give Murphy that shot again.

It would be kind of fun if Jazz had, Burke, Burks, E. Murphy, and K. Murphy on the team next year.
 
Especially considering Hoopshype is reporting that the Jazz are interested in PJ Harrison, which I assume is at 23. Save the pick and give Murphy that shot again.

It would be kind of fun if Jazz had, Burke, Burks, E. Murphy, and K. Murphy on the team next year.

I like the way you think.
 

It also appears from the article that the Jazz will be the single affiliate for the Stampede instead of the arrangement they had this past year with Bakersfield. It makes one wonder if the Jazz are going to sign a bunch of undrafted free agents or DLeague vets, take them to camp, waive them and then assign them down and it would appear that the high first round draft pick would be a likely candidate to play in the DLeague.
 
It also appears from the article that the Jazz will be the single affiliate for the Stampede instead of the arrangement they had this past year with Bakersfield. It makes one wonder if the Jazz are going to sign a bunch of undrafted free agents or DLeague vets, take them to camp, waive them and then assign them down and it would appear that the high first round draft pick would be a likely candidate to play in the DLeague.
By high 1st, you mean #23, right?
You can only assign two players to your D-League team, IINM. The rest of D-League players actually have contracts with the league, which allows them to sign with any NBA team and have the D-League contract terminated. So you can't "horde" talent and have their rights remain with the parent team. It's a different structure than minor league baseball, for example.

The single affiliate model is attractive to NBA teams because it gives them control over coaches and thus, playing style and minutes for their assigned players. The single affiliate is also key if the NBA is going to make it a true minor league system in conjunction with the raising the draft age and college players having to stay 2 years instead of 1. NBA also wants to increase salaries in the D-League to avoid having the talent go overseas after summer league or training camp cuts.
 
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By high 1st, you mean #23, right?
You can only assign three players to your D-League team, IINM. The rest of D-League players actually have contracts with the league, which allows them to sign with any NBA team and have the D-League contract terminated. So you can't "horde" talent and have their rights remain with the parent team. It's a different structure than minor league baseball, for example.

The single affiliate model is attractive to NBA teams because it gives them control over coaches and thus, playing style and minutes for their assigned players. The single affiliate is also key if the NBA is going to make it a true minor league system in conjunction with the raising the draft age and college players having to stay 2 years instead of 1. NBA also wants to increase salaries in the D-League to avoid having the talent go overseas after summer league or training camp cuts.

Yeah I meant the 23rd pick. I was thinking that guy might get sent down and two others that qualify that are still on the 15 man roster. The rest could be guys that the Jazz would like to have play in their system and if an injury or trade occurred could be called up and would know the system. I know this would apply to the rest of the league that is not on an affilated contract.
 
K Murphy does look like he put on some muscle since Jazz.
Maybe he might be worth looking at again.
 
Yeah I meant the 23rd pick. I was thinking that guy might get sent down and two others that qualify that are still on the 15 man roster. The rest could be guys that the Jazz would like to have play in their system and if an injury or trade occurred could be called up and would know the system. I know this would apply to the rest of the league that is not on an affilated contract.

I think it all depends on who we draft at 23. If someone like Hood is there, and if we don't get an SF with the first puck, he is probably ready to contribute as is.

This could be great for players like E. Murphy, Clark, and future ones like them. Get them some good burn during the periods where they would just sit.jazz need to acquire a lot of 3&D's for when we finally make it back to the playoffs. This will be a good way to keep those guys fresh during the regular season, w/o messing w/ the development of our core players.
 
Yeah I meant the 23rd pick. I was thinking that guy might get sent down and two others that qualify that are still on the 15 man roster. The rest could be guys that the Jazz would like to have play in their system and if an injury or trade occurred could be called up and would know the system. I know this would apply to the rest of the league that is not on an affilated contract.

Except it doesn't work that way. It's not a minor league team where all the players belong to the NBA team. Any players assigned still count against the 15-man roster. The remaining players on the D-League team, even if it is a single-team affiliate, have contracts with the D-League, not the parent team and can be signed by any NBA team during the season (like we did with Garrett).

So yes, you could have a bunch of players with the Idaho Stampede learning the Jazz' system. But the Jazz would only retain the rights to two of them - and only if they were on the 15-man roster and had been sent down. The rest could leave if/when another NBA wanted them on their roster. On the other hand, you would have kind of an advanced summer league where FA's are learning the offense/defense and would get a 10-day contract if something happened with the Jazz (injury, trade, etc.).
 
Except it doesn't work that way. It's not a minor league team where all the players belong to the NBA team. Any players assigned still count against the 15-man roster. The remaining players on the D-League team, even if it is a single-team affiliate, have contracts with the D-League, not the parent team and can be signed by any NBA team during the season (like we did with Garrett).

So yes, you could have a bunch of players with the Idaho Stampede learning the Jazz' system. But the Jazz would only retain the rights to two of them - and only if they were on the 15-man roster and had been sent down. The rest could leave if/when another NBA wanted them on their roster. On the other hand, you would have kind of an advanced summer league where FA's are learning the offense/defense and would get a 10-day contract if something happened with the Jazz (injury, trade, etc.).

Still a huge plus to have one with your system. I've heard that the one:one affiliates can practice with their parent teams (or is that just the three they have rights to?). Either way, you have 15 more players you are potentially interested in learning your system, and you have the edge data-wise on all of them. You will probably see what is to be seen in them before another team could offer them the 10 day and steal them away. It's a lot better to pick from your own garden, than the over-trodden community one.
 
Still a huge plus to have one with your system. I've heard that the one:one affiliates can practice with their parent teams (or is that just the three they have rights to?). Either way, you have 15 more players you are potentially interested in learning your system, and you have the edge data-wise on all of them. You will probably see what is to be seen in them before another team could offer them the 10 day and steal them away. It's a lot better to pick from your own garden, than the over-trodden community one.

Completely agree. And you pick your D-League coach so he's a "system guy" who is readily promoted if the parent team loses an assistant to a HC job elsewhere. Didn't know that about practices. Having the Stampede is a reason why I think the Jazz will supposedly bring in even more players than last year for workouts. A few undrafted players may get training camp invites, and a handful more will be on the Jazz' radar for the D-League roster. Technically, most of these players will have contracts owned by the league, but as you mentioned, they'll be playing in the Jazz' system and can be plucked if necessary.
 
Hell, I just hope that they put the bottom two young guys down there at all times and really get those kids some playing time. I'd have loved to see what Clark and Murphy could have done with some real minutes - even at the D-League level. If you're going to invest in a single-team affiliation, you should let the young guys get some real playing time and maybe develop.
 
Hell, I just hope that they put the bottom two young guys down there at all times and really get those kids some playing time. I'd have loved to see what Clark and Murphy could have done with some real minutes - even at the D-League level. If you're going to invest in a single-team affiliation, you should let the young guys get some real playing time and maybe develop.

I could see this affecting who the Jazz bring to training camp as undrafted free agents. This last year it seemed like there were quite a few veterans signed to non guaranteed contracts in camp. This year I could see younger players invited to training camp with the eye of having them play in Boise.
 
The problem with Murph was that he was always looking for 'his'. Whenever he touched the ball, you damn knew that he would be hulking it up there in no time. He didn't play within his role, couldn't defend, and his nerves probably weakened his finishing skills.


If I knew that he could play good team offense, I honestly wouldn't have that big of a problem with him. But I doubt that.
 
The problem with Murph was that he was always looking for 'his'. Whenever he touched the ball, you damn knew that he would be hulking it up there in no time. He didn't play within his role, couldn't defend, and his nerves probably weakened his finishing skills.


If I knew that he could play good team offense, I honestly wouldn't have that big of a problem with him. But I doubt that.

And you know all of this definitively from the 52 minutes of garbage time he played for us?


I've seen some baseless comments on this board, but I think this takes the cake.

None of us fans know who he was, or what he could become. He looks efficient in the Dleague now, and can obviously shoot, which can't be said about any of our other guards. You really wouldn't be interested in giving him a chance to be a specialist shooter for us, if nothing else? His measurements and release are much better than Ian Clark's.
 
Hell, I just hope that they put the bottom two young guys down there at all times and really get those kids some playing time. I'd have loved to see what Clark and Murphy could have done with some real minutes - even at the D-League level. If you're going to invest in a single-team affiliation, you should let the young guys get some real playing time and maybe develop.

Agree. If they're not contributing on a regular basis, let them get PT in the D-League. You could also rotate 3-4 young players between the Jazz and Stampede.
 
Agree. If they're not contributing on a regular basis, let them get PT in the D-League. You could also rotate 3-4 young players between the Jazz and Stampede.

I like this idea, since there such a talent difference between the two leagues. Everyone would get their burn, and yet you'd be able to discern who is most NBA ready, and who needs more experience at the farm.
 
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