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ew. You can shoot like **** and increase your PER by taking more shots. Someone on the team has to collect rebounds and assists. PER is terrible, especially when judging high usage players on bad teams.

And fwiw, I'm not looking at stats alone. I'm trying to evaluate the players based on skills, progress, potential roles they could fill on a good team.

Gordo isn't an offensive hub OR a perimeter stopper.

Favs has yet to show that he's a great post defender, but has shown an ability to protect the rim and defend the pick and roll well. He's not an on-ball scorer, and his mid-range game is still suspect. As such, he'll probably always be a bit of an offensive liability. He needs to be a bit nastier defensively.

Kanter has decent touch and footwork. Not convinced his bully ball or passing will ever be good enough that you can run the offense through him. Should be able to provide some spacing. He seems completely disinterested on defense, with his hands at his side when defending in space.

Burks looks likes he can be an adequate 6th man. His improved spot-up shooting this season also makes it possible for him to be effective off-ball (this was absolutely HUGE for his development). Lack of strength and a propensity to ball watch make him a liability on defense.


This team still needs a couple players you can run the offense through, a perimeter stopper or two, and a bit more shooting. I don't see the above players providing that. I'd move Gordo and Kanter if it brought back one or two players who could fill key roles.

Favs ain't Noah on offense or defense. Not close. Noah is at best the third best overall player on a 3rd round contender. This team, this tank concept, it's broken beyond repair. Kevin OC needs to see the ****ing light and learn to build a team the right way, the Philip 76ers way.

/sapbox
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];838257 said:
Gawd, yr such a little bitch. Missing teh point, as per yoozsch.


pls keep complaining about the current state of JFC, it makes me lol.
 
I think using his injury as an excuse for his rebounding is wishful thinking.

Than call it improvement. His REB% went up after the ASG!

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[tr]
[td][/td]
[td]OREB%[/td]
[td]DREB%[/td]
[td]REB%[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]pre ASG[/td]
[td]9.9%[/td]
[td]19.1%[/td]
[td]14.2%[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]post ASG[/td]
[td]14.1%[/td]
[td]26.5%[/td]
[td]19.9%[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

I'll take that.
 
What does that mean? Ideally, how is he being used in halfcourt sets? Where might he add extra value? How does he fit in defensively? How replaceable is he? At what cost?


In the halfcourt he can be a secondary ball handler, playmaker, curler, and spot up shooter (yes, I believe can return to his shooting form from 3 that he had in 12-13, when he is not the primary ball handler and #1 option). He also helps to secure rebounds.

It means I believe he is easily the 3rd best player on a contender. You act like he's devoid of playmaking skills, which is completely false. If he's the focal point, he'll struggle, just like any #2 or #3 would if they were forced to be the #1. Also, being stuck in a halfcourt set constantly because of other players (old RJ, Trey being stuck on that 35 second shot clock pace, and the oft injured Marvin deserve the blame for this), wasn't the best situation for him last year. He has a lot of offensive potency in the open floor, like most of our young guys do, minus Trey.

Defensively, he is pretty good on the perimeter. He's not an SF, he's an SG who can play the SF situationally, and for the SG spot he has great size, lateral quickness, stance, and other defensive skills. The knock I have on his team D is him not rotating to help the helper. It's a trust issue, but it's pretty understandable considering he had Trey and RJ as defensive counterparts on the perimeter. Both were atrocious.

I don't see him as easily replaceable. He has improved every year he's been in the league, with the exception of shooting, but that probably has more to do with transitioning from the #4 option the #1 option, when he should be the #3 option.


The argument I've seen from you in the past is, "why don't we get rid of Gordon and acquire other cheaper options that as a whole fulfill his skillset?" How is this efficient? You'dmhave to play two players instead of one, but never achieve Gordon's true value, because by playing two players that have make up his skill set you must now not play another player who did other things for the team. Only 5 players can be on the court at one time, so having some players who can be multi-dimensional will only help to separate you from the competition.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];838305 said:

pretty sure I've never used axe body spray once in my life.

Lol @ ripping on bomber jackets. U rly got me their NAOS!!!! How will I recover!! zomg. You're such a zoob.
 
Than call it improvement. His REB% went up after the ASG!

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[tr]
[td][/td]
[td]OREB%[/td]
[td]DREB%[/td]
[td]REB%[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]pre ASG[/td]
[td]9.9%[/td]
[td]19.1%[/td]
[td]14.2%[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]post ASG[/td]
[td]14.1%[/td]
[td]26.5%[/td]
[td]19.9%[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

I'll take that.

Be prepared for someone to say you can't use stats. They know what they saw, er... What they were told by Utah media.

Seriously can't understand why people didn't expect growing pains after rarely playing on any team, going from third tier competition to first year, a missed offseason of training, possible psychological hurdle to jump over when being physical after injury, possible mental hurdle of having your coach tell media you don't give team chance to win when there were a hundred other variables at play, and having the most roller coaster like minutes distributed of anyone on the team. Oh, and he was 21! Could've been a rookie this upcoming year.
 
'Cause that was so great?

Wow. He gave us the 5th pick in a 4 person draft. Thanks Trey!

Horrible argument. Why not single out any other wins? Of because that wouldn't fit your story.

For someone who defends knater so fiercely it is weird to see you make the same kind of attacks on Trey that you defend Kanter from.
 
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