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Really hope Lindsey trades Burke

The tone might be over the top, sure, but the topic is worth discussing with the draft tomorrow and free agency on the horizon. We aren't built; we are rebuilding.

I don't even think it's worth talking about tbh. Unless you're talking about a package for a top 5 pick or something. I wouldn't give him up for a pick in the 20's or even late teens. He was on a terrible team, with a terrible coach, in his rookie year, and put up decent numbers. Not really sure what people expected...
 
something is just rubbing me the wrong way. you can tell he can't wait to get out of town. you see the look in his eyes when he conveniently mentioned his "Clippers tattoo". or better yet, him and his boyfriend Sullinger wanna go to the mall together in Boston. hope ya mommy doesn't tweet too much.

deal the CANCER

I am amazed how quickly people have turned on Burke. Geez he was a rookie who played big minutes. I don't get the inferior complex some Jazz fans have. Player A.. said this about Utah (City of Utah) so did Karl Malone. He thought the July 24th parade was celebrating his B-day or something. Not everyone knows about Utah. I grew up in Connecticut and knew very little about the State of Utah and I was raised Mormon.

Is it a requirement for every Jazz player to LOVE Utah and take an oath showing their endless love for Utah. Think about it. Burke is what 19-20 years old, what where you like at that age? Now throw in being famous and rich and being away from home, maybe for the first time in your life. Trey is not the first person to tweet out a few stupid things. He won't be the last. He has lived his whole life in Columbus before college so he will have more loyalty to that part of the country and friends too. Who wouldn't want to play with their best friend? How is that any different than anyone else. I lived in CA for twenty years and that is where I now consider home even though I don't live there. I also lived in Utah for about six years and have fond memories of the place but I prefer living in CA for many different reasons. It doesn't mean I hate Utah. So if you love living in Utah and then your company transfers you to say Texas.. are you going to be a Mavs fan? Are you going to forget Utah and all the wonderful memories you had there? Why is it different for an NBA player? Who cares if they love it here as long as they come here and play hard. Trey plays hard for the most part, I believe he will improve and wants to improve so I don't have an issue with him talking about where he grew up.

Now about what really is important, his BB ability. I was one of the few people who wasn't super excited about moving up and getting Trey but I've come around for a few reasons. One I love how he isn't afraid to take the last shot and how accurate he is in the clutch moments. It is even more surprising because overall I've been disappointed in his shooting. However, I think he will improve it mostly because there is an adjustment period coming to the NBA and he is a hard worker and I believe he will be more comfortable.

I like the fact he took the blame for not running more. Part of it was his problem but the other part was Ty insisting that the offense run through Hayward. I think Burke needs to be given the reigns and be the floor leader. I think getting Quin Snyder to coach will certainly help his development.

Yes Trey was average to poor on defense. He had a lot of company and deserves the criticism, however I think the whole team was bad because they are not use to playing with each other and I don't believe they trusted the defensive scheme. My expectations with Trey were much lower and because of that perhaps I have more patience with him. I certainly hope he takes two steps forward and shows some leadership and improved shooting. I am not ready to just write him off like a lot of people are. I don't need him to swear his allegiance to Utah or the Jazz. I think Utah has more pressing needs like a SF and more outside shooting. However, after all I said I would trade any Jazz player if it makes the team better.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];855425 said:
it's really that inconceivable for you to imagine that people have different opinions than you?

Trade Burke
That's not allowed around here.
 
I don't even think it's worth talking about tbh. Unless you're talking about a package for a top 5 pick or something. I wouldn't give him up for a pick in the 20's or even late teens. He was on a terrible team, with a terrible coach, in his rookie year, and put up decent numbers. Not really sure what people expected...

I'd trade him for Gary Harris right now. And I might even throw another something into the deal to make it happen.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];855414 said:
good to see you again

-NAOS

Hey back at ya. The Old Guard like Numb and GVC are still around, but I can't figure out the others with the name changes.
 
Only way I would want to move burke is if we took smart and then used burke and 23 to move up for gordon or something. Otherwise it seems like a waste.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];855435 said:
I'd trade him for Gary Harris right now. And I might even throw another something into the deal to make it happen.

What am I missing about Gary Harris? There's nothing about him that jumps off the page or the screen to me. Seems like Devin Brown.
 
What am I missing about Gary Harris? There's nothing about him that jumps off the page or the screen to me. Seems like Devin Brown.

I see a Spurs player. Good, hardworking defender. Good shooter. Makes winning plays.

He's never gonna be an iso player, but I think he'll figure out exactly who he is and be a solid rotational player.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];855448 said:
I see a Spurs player. Good, hardworking defender. Good shooter. Makes winning plays.

He's never gonna be an iso player, but I think he'll figure out exactly who he is and be a solid rotational player.

So... rich man's Devin Brown? Maybe?
 
The favorable comparison for Gary Harris is;

A smarter O.J. Mayo. I don't necessarily agree.

that's been said by scouts though.

Id compare him to a better version of Wayne Ellington.
 
Whoa.....


This thread is pooping the bed so hard. Like, this is happening? I don't chime in that often, and try to only bring the feel good times, but you guys.... seriously, you got to take a vacation or something. You ever read those news stories about a crazy person who lived in a 350 sq ft studio apartment with just three pieces of furniture - a bed, a chair, and a small table. And they freaked out and ate the chair one day because they were convinced that was the problem. Yeah freaks, that's you. You're focusing on some weird sh**.

The Jazz suck. Like, really bad. Their 21 year old PG, who just finished third in ROY voting and coming into his second year is not the problem. I'm not saying the guy is Chris Paul or something, I'm just saying you've overanalyzed and can't see the forest from the trees. Eat xanax or something.

Weird.
 
something is just rubbing me the wrong way. you can tell he can't wait to get out of town. you see the look in his eyes when he conveniently mentioned his "Clippers tattoo". or better yet, him and his boyfriend Sullinger wanna go to the mall together in Boston. hope ya mommy doesn't tweet too much.

deal the CANCER

Mental health in this country is an obvious problem.
 
Whoa.....


This thread is pooping the bed so hard. Like, this is happening? I don't chime in that often, and try to only bring the feel good times, but you guys.... seriously, you got to take a vacation or something. You ever read those news stories about a crazy person who lived in a 350 sq ft studio apartment with just three pieces of furniture - a bed, a chair, and a small table. And they freaked out and ate the chair one day because they were convinced that was the problem. Yeah freaks, that's you. You're focusing on some weird sh**.

The Jazz suck. Like, really bad. Their 21 year old PG, who just finished third in ROY voting and coming into his second year is not the problem. I'm not saying the guy is Chris Paul or something, I'm just saying you've overanalyzed and can't see the forest from the trees. Eat xanax or something.

Weird.

Perhaps the strongest post in this thread.

To add: I don't want to trade anybody on this team until I see what's coming back. That seems like it would be obvious, but it's maybe the only time I've felt this way since I've followed the team. I like our pieces. I don't love them, but I like them. We'll see when the murkiness clears and I think we will soon.

I think Burke is a guy you can trade but should probably try to keep. I have a good feeling about him and he's impressed me.
 
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