What's new
By:

Rumor: Jazz prepared to match 'any offer' for Hayward.

NUMBERICA said:
If the Jazz have Exum, Burks, and Burke, where is Hayward going to get minutes as a 2 (provided that Exum is NBA-ready, and Burke/Burks don't get worse)?
Click to expand...
Exum won't be playing 32 mins. Hayward played the 3 alongside Burks last year towards the end of the season and that seemed to work just fine. With Hood aboard, it seems like what they need is a swing forward who could get some mins at PF and move to SF if Hayward or Hood are out. Marvin seems like the perfect fit.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
I just wanted to correct this and point out that Millsap's contract situation was the BEFORE Mathews... because I'm a dick like that.
Click to expand...

You are not being a dick. I was wrong. I went back and checked and you are right. No problem. I still stand with my point team's take a big gamble when they let the market determine a players price.
 
jjscap said:
I find it noteworthy that in his post-draft interviews DL never mentioned Hayward. But on multiple times he mentioned Alec Burks. He once said Trey - Exum - Burks will form a unique 3-man rotation. I am guessing he means giving like 32-32-32 mpg for each guy, going with Trey - Burks, Trey - Exum and Exum - Burks backcourts throughout the game.
Click to expand...

I think more than anything, if we want to read into that, it's that the FO sees G-time as the full-time SF. With the emergence of Burks last season, it was going that direction, but the drafting of Exum cemented it. At 6'8" 225, he's a prototypical SF anyway.
 
Core4 said:
"whose"

Or he shot like a guy being asked to do everything, including cooking team meals. Before last season, Gordon had averages of 45%/40%. There's a reason he gets invited to US national team basketball camps. WE undervalue him and are quick to throw him away after a tough season. There are a LOT of teams who would love to have Gordon aboard. And I'm going to venture a guess that Snyder's ball motion, up-tempo offense will be more suited to Hayward's game than Corbin's YMCA pick-up game system.
Click to expand...

LOL- Most Jazz fans overvalue Hayward. They want to pay him like a superstar. He is a good role player, he is inconsistent and his shooting went down. People are saying Jodie Meeks got overpaid at $6 million a year but they want to turn around and pay $12+ and some want to give him the MAX. Now Hayward is the better player but his offensive numbers are eerily similar. How do Jazz fans explain the similar stats? They say Hayward sucked because the coach and Meeks excelled because of the system. So in reality they are making excuses and overvaluing Hayward.

Hayward is a $7-9 million player but since it is the NBA so he should get paid $10/11 million but he wants more than that because Utah offered him $10.5 and he turned it down. Now if Hayward had blown up and average 20 pts + on a higher percentage than I would say give him $14m but he didn't and I don't think he ever will so pay him as an above average role player.
 
da ThRONe said:
I think you are missing the point. I'm saying the Pistons overpaid Meeks.
Click to expand...

No I get it. Which is why I think it is funny because Hayward and Meeks had the similar shooting stats. Everything else Hayward does over Meeks (yes hayward is the better player) isn't worth the difference in what some fans want to pay Hayward.
 
BENTLEY said:
Hayward is not a max contract guy. We're all kinda bummed that Paul George is a star and we picked Hayday instead. Hayward's talent is inferior to George but not by too much, and that means the Jazz have almost as good of a player without having to pay the max. Jazz SHOULD save some $ on a almost as good talent. Just don't pay him max. I think he's worth 7M, but he'll get at least 10. Hopefully not much more than that.
Click to expand...

I read somewhere that the Jazz offered him $10.5 before last year so you are spot on with what they think his value is. I agree with your post.
 
cowhide said:
No I get it. Which is why I think it is funny because Hayward and Meeks had the similar shooting stats. Everything else Hayward does over Meeks (yes hayward is the better player) isn't worth the difference in what some fans want to pay Hayward.
Click to expand...

I think Hayward is a better player than he showed last year. I really think a bunch of guys on this roster are better than they showed last year. But I still think paying him over 10M per year is insane. I'd almost rather have Parsons than Hayward and if Hayward is getting more money then I definitely would rather have Parsons. I hope to have Hayward back, I really like the way he plays. But the money needs to be right.
.
I was one firmly against the Jazz giving AK a max contract. For a lot of the same reason's I don't want anything to do with Hayward as a max or even near max player. I just don't think he has it in him to live up to that kind of contract. Even if he is better than he showed under a terrible system/coach.
 
BENTLEY said:
Hayward is not a max contract guy. We're all kinda bummed that Paul George is a star and we picked Hayday instead. Hayward's talent is inferior to George but not by too much, and that means the Jazz have almost as good of a player without having to pay the max. Jazz SHOULD save some $ on a almost as good talent. Just don't pay him max. I think he's worth 7M, but he'll get at least 10. Hopefully not much more than that.
Click to expand...
I'm not sure George will ever live up to that contract. I definitely don't want Hayward at that price.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top