Free Agent Rumors Thread

[Stifle Tower]

So we are suppose to be excited if his shooting goes up to .45 percent. Yes the NBA has certainly changed. Quin is a miracle man if he can do that. Hayward is still going to be the number one guy and he is going to have a bigger target on his back. I think he will do better if they take the ball out of his hands more and allow him to be a spot up shooter which is what he does best.

Care to guess what Kobe's career shooting average is?
I said 45%/40% for a reason: those were Gordon's career averages before last year's disaster of a season. Gordon should still get a lot of touches in Quin's system. And he's still going to be able to drive and get assists; he just doesn't need to do it every time down the court. If he can average 18/5/4 and do it on 45%/40% - that's all we need from Gordon. I don't want the offense to have a clear #1 guy. Jazz would be much more dangerous with 5-6 guys in the 14-18 range.

 

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The roster is basically set, its 12, and with Malcolm Thomas and Ian Clark its 14 my only hope left in F/A is upgrading those players, which i believe can be done.

Give me Honeycutt and Seth Curry over those 2 and I'm happy.

Id take Francisco Garcia or Aminu over Malcolm Thomas also (Beasley too but that's not happening).

Word is the Spurs contacted Aminu 2 days ago but no deal is imminent.

I agree with this. While I'm not particularly enamored with Honeycutt, I'd definitely take him over Thomas. Clark flat out sucks. I guess I was confused earlier when you were pimping Honeycutt, I thought you were promoting him as more than a garbage time player.

I just don't like Thomas or Clark at all.

 

[The Midnight]

I agree with this. While I'm not particularly enamored with Honeycutt, I'd definitely take him over Thomas. Clark flat out sucks. I guess I was confused earlier when you were pimping Honeycutt, I thought you were promoting him as more than a garbage time player.

I just don't like Thomas or Clark at all.

Different players different roles. Thomas is a PF, he would be asked to rebound, make dunks and put-backs, the fact that he's a pretty good shooter for his position is an added bonus.


Honeycutt on the other hand plays on the wing, he HAS to make those open 3's, otherwise what's he there for?

 

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Different players different roles. Thomas is a PF, he would be asked to rebound, make dunks and put-backs, the fact that he's a pretty good shooter for his position is an added bonus.


Honeycutt on the other hand plays on the wing, he HAS to make those open 3's, otherwise what's he there for?

I don't think either one would be asked to do much of anything, tbh. I think Honeycutt may be a better asset now, and even if he is not, I think he will be within a short amount of time.

 

[The Midnight]

I don't think either one would be asked to do much of anything, tbh. I think Honeycutt may be a better asset now, and even if he is not, I think he will be within a short amount of time.

Not if he doesn't get the playtime under Quin's new system because he can't shoot it. A guy rotting away on the bench is hardly going to become an 'asset'.

 

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Not if he doesn't get the playtime under Quin's new system because he can't shoot it. A guy rotting away on the bench is hardly going to become an 'asset'.

Everyone on the team is an asset. Yes, some are worth more than others.

Thomas and Honeycutt would both be garbage time players. Neither one are going to be showcasing their skills in regular season action. I think Thomas sucks. I know nothing about Honeycutt, but think that he might suck less. I think he might be the better player, so I pick him. Really nothing to debate, we just have a difference of opinion about two garbage time players.

 

[The Midnight]

Everyone on the team is an asset. Yes, some are worth more than others.

Thomas and Honeycutt would both be garbage time players. Neither one are going to be showcasing their skills in regular season action. I think Thomas sucks. I know nothing about Honeycutt, but think that he might suck less. I think he might be the better player, so I pick him. Really nothing to debate, we just have a difference of opinion about two garbage time players.

All I'm saying is it seems like under this new system we're looking at guys who can shoot it for his/her position. Even Booker has a nice jumper as illustrated by his chart shot I posted a few days ago. Thomas also has a nice stroke for his position.

 

[Stifle Tower]

All I'm saying is it seems like under this new system we're looking at guys who can shoot it for his/her position. Even Booker has a nice jumper as illustrated by his chart shot I posted a few days ago. Thomas also has a nice stroke for his position.

Good shooters and maximum effort players.
Quin likely has some input into who he wants signed. I think Novak and Booker are his kind of guys. What's exciting to me is you see a glimpse of Snyder's system in summer league. I've watched a few other games and some have been little more than pick-up style games. Utah has been moving the ball around and setting screens. The guards have been penetrating and getting it inside, or throwing it out for a 3-pt shot. Jazz basketball is FUN TO WATCH. When was the last time we could say that?

 

[The Midnight]

Good shooters and maximum effort players.
Quin likely has some input into who he wants signed. I think Novak and Booker are his kind of guys. What's exciting to me is you see a glimpse of Snyder's system in summer league. I've watched a few other games and some have been little more than pick-up style games. Utah has been moving the ball around and setting screens. The guards have been penetrating and getting it inside, or throwing it out for a 3-pt shot. SPURS/HAWKS basketball currently being implemented by Quin to our roster will be FUN TO WATCH. When was the last time we could say that?

Fixed.

 

[Scorpjazz]

Except it IS the jazz, so he was right the first time.

 

[Game6Conley]

I agree with this. While I'm not particularly enamored with Honeycutt, I'd definitely take him over Thomas. Clark flat out sucks. I guess I was confused earlier when you were pimping Honeycutt, I thought you were promoting him as more than a garbage time player.

I just don't like Thomas or Clark at all.

Honeycutt should be on a roster, he will gladly wait his turn on the bench, theres no doubt in my mind about that. His other option is playing in Russia, hes got a contract for the next 2 seasons for 1 mil total there.

I have a problem with Malcolm Thomas being so old(we already have Jeremy Evans), Players like Honeycutt and Aminu can still be developed and molded slightly. Thomas will need to prove his worth on an ungauranteed deal and play to preserve his career.

Honeycutt has proven he belongs in the NBA IMO, this is the time to give him the stop-gap contract, the Gerald Green min deal to Brooklyn.

 

[fishonjazz]

Not a shooter.


So yeah, again, just not gonna fit in Quinn's new offensive system. Sorry.

I guess gobert, exum, and alec are all going to be gone soon

 

[Game6Conley]

Does anyone know when Malcolm Thomas or Ian Clark's contract would become guaranteed?

 

[The Midnight]

I guess gobert, exum, and alec are all going to be gone soon

No, it's everyone except the center position. I'd suggest you go watch some of last season's Hawks game which Quin and Budenholzer implemented. It basically is 1 skilled center/big surrounded by good spacing/ball movement and 4 other guys who stands on the 3pt line and shoot.


We'll still need quick guards who handle and bring the ball up the court quickly before the defense is set (Exum in the starting lineup and Burks in the 2nd unit?), but other than that we need shooters all round.

 

[fishonjazz]

No, it's everyone except the center position. I'd suggest you go watch some of last season's Hawks game which Quin and Budenholzer implemented. It basically is 1 skilled center/big surrounded by good spacing/ball movement and 4 other guys who stands on the 3pt line and shoot.


We'll still need quick guard who handles and bring the ball up the court (Exum in the starting lineup and Burks in the 2nd unit?), other than that we need shooters all round.

So you said that lindsey only wants good shooters for thier position at every position other than center.

I brought up exum (you know, the guy they just drafted to be thier franchise player hopefully) who is a very poor shooter from three point and from the line.

You are incorrect about your original point.

Of course now you will spin it and change your original point to try to make it so you are not wrong still.
smd

 

[The Midnight]

So you said that lindsey only wants good shooters for thier position at every position other than center.

I brought up exum (you know, the guy they just drafted to be thier franchise player hopefully) who is a very poor shooter from three point and from the line.

You are incorrect about your original point.

Of course now you will spin it and change your original point to try to make it so you are not wrong still.
smd

Exum has a potential to be that quick guard that brings the ball up and I don't think his 3pt shot is broken by any means. I'm just saying for new FAs signings I doubt Lindsey would go after guys who don't figure to be in our future plans and cannot shoot.

 

[fishonjazz]

Of course now you will spin it and change your original point to try to make it so you are not wrong still.
smd

Exum has a potential to be that quick guard that brings the ball up and I don't think his 3pt shot is broken by any means. I'm just saying for new FAs signings I doubt Lindsey would go after guys who don't figure to be in our future plans and cannot shoot.

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[fishonjazz]

Exum has a potential to be that quick guard that brings the ball up and I don't think his 3pt shot is broken by any means. I'm just saying for new FAs signings I doubt Lindsey would go after guys who don't figure to be in our future plans and cannot shoot.

So basically, DL wants shooters everwhere except at the center position, and the guard positions.

Gotcha

 

[Game6Conley]

No, it's everyone except the center position. I'd suggest you go watch some of last season's Hawks game which Quin and Budenholzer implemented. It basically is 1 skilled center/big surrounded by good spacing/ball movement and 4 other guys who stands on the 3pt line and shoot.


We'll still need quick guards who handle and bring the ball up the court quickly before the defense is set (Exum in the starting lineup and Burks in the 2nd unit?), but other than that we need shooters all round.

I had a few players i was considering but i went with Honeycutt because hes the best 3 point shooter that I think the jazz would gamble on.

Michael Beasley isnt an option, i dont think, hed be the craziest 13th or 14th man ever added to a Jazz roster for certain if it happened, which it wont.

Wesley Johnson is Wesley Johnson but he shot 37% from 3 last season. Do not want.

I was considering some Summer league guys, Amath M'Baye has alot of talent but isnt reliable from 3 like Honeycutt. Ronald Roberts Jr. belongs in the D-league, I'm on the fence about him vs Malcolm Thomas.

Devin Ebanks IS reliable from 3 he shot 44% from 3 last year in the d-league on 5.1 attempts per, he'd really be an ideal fit, the Jazz wont sign him though, Arrested for Marijuana possession last year, might as well go for Beasley. Too bad though hes balling in the SL, and is a Brooklyn Native.

Aminu is a non-shooter but hes capable of knocking down mid-range shots, just doesn't look for it much, I still think he works here, I really dont want to face Aminu on the Spurs.

Francisco Garcia is a reliable 3 and d guy, has been for years, my only issue is that hes going to command minutes to preserve his career.

Honeycutt's rebounding is really, really, really good though. 27 rebounds in the last 2 games, maybe that 9.3 rebound per game # wasnt a formation of playing in the Israeli league.

 

[The Midnight]

So basically, DL wants shooters everwhere except at the center position, and the guard positions.

Gotcha

??? I said I don't think they think Exum's shot is broken. Burks also stroked the 3 pretty well last season. Anyhow these are guys we have invested interest in as they're our draft picks so it's worth spending time and effort grooming them.



My point is for new FA's however, it's unlikely DL will be interested in investing as much time and effort. Him going out to get Novak is an evidence of this (i.e., getting a ready made shooter to fit the new system).