Current Players Draft Quarterfinals: Hekate v. Hack

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Could Drummond even play that much in a playoff series?

He is next level awful at FT's

 

[Hotdog]

Hekate really needs to change his starting lineup. I won't give him the benefit of the doubt this time by making up my own rotation for his team. Demarre Carroll should not start with his bench looking the way it does. I don't think Korver should either.

Do not be afraid to play an unconventional lineup. Play to your strengths, do what feels right.

But if that feels right, then nvm.

I don't get the love for Korver

Korver isn't a starting 2 guard in a 14 team league. I wouldn't even let him start for my team if there were 50 teams.

Carroll is a nice bench player.

Deng and Mathews are legit starters at their positions. Both 2 way players as well.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Hekate's wings just aren't good enough.

With no one coming off the bench though? Rodney Hood and Doug McDermott, seriously? And the big disparity is frankly insane.

 

[Stifle Tower]

^^
I agree. I think it's "homer syndrome." People tend to remember the good things about Korver and DMC and forget all the bad. Both are/should be bench players.
However, your bench is largely unknown. For me, it was almost a toss up.

 

[Hotdog]

With no one coming off the bench though? Rodney Hood and Doug McDermott, seriously? And the big disparity is frankly insane.

So you are saying Rodney Hood and McDermott will suck?

 

[8]

I don't get the love for Korver

Korver isn't a starting 2 guard in a 14 team league. I wouldn't even let him start for my team if there were 50 teams.

Carroll is a nice bench player.

Deng and Mathews are legit starters at their positions. Both 2 way players as well.

Word. Johnson should be starting for sure. Then have Thomas off the bench and Korver can do his 3-point thing he does. Hekate could also put out a lineup like Parker, Korver, Johnson, Millsap, Bosh. Idk, the more I play around with his lineup combinations the more I like his team. His traditional NBA-brand wings (da 3's) are bad, but he has some skilled and versatile bigs and pretty good guards too. He can make some interesting combinations that would be able to help him against any opponent. He could really afford to spread out a team with poor isolation post players like Ibaka and Drummond.

 

[8]

This is a tough one. I'll have to think about it and vote later.

It's too easy to look at Hekate's starting lineup and vote for Hack. That's Hekate's biggest downfall imo.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I don't get the love for Korver

Korver isn't a starting 2 guard in a 14 team league. I wouldn't even let him start for my team if there were 50 teams.

https://grantland.com/features/kyle-korver-nba-atlanta-hawks/

Kyle Korver: An Offense Unto Himself
How the Hawks sharpshooter became one of the most uniquely valuable players in the NBA

Korver is an antique perfectly suited to thrive at the forefront of the league’s evolution. He is among a dying breed who sprint around screens away from the ball, Reggie Miller–style, hoist quick catch-and-shoot jumpers, and sink enough of them to make the advanced math work. “Nobody plays that way anymore,” says Steve Clifford, the Hornets’ coach. “Game-planning for him is such a handful.”

But Korver’s shooting and ability to read the floor make him an ideal fit within a league that jacks more 3s and requires more movement on both ends — changes the league helped generate through rule changes. “The game over the last four or five years has become so much more suited to the way he plays today,” says Jerry Sloan, who coached Korver in Utah.

He’s developed into a smart passer with some off-the-bounce juice, and he moves around so much on offense, often outside the game plan, that he sometimes annoys the Atlanta coaching staff. He’s a plus off-ball defender, his head always on a swivel, watching every player on the floor without losing track of his guy. In Atlanta, Korver has found the perfect coach and system to leverage his unmatched shooting in new and adventurous ways.

Korver averaged a career high in minutes per game last season and nailed a ridiculous 47.2 percent of his 3s. He received some All-Star consideration, though not as much as he should have, since he doesn’t dominate the ball. [NOTE: that's a premium in a game where there are too many guys that can score on their own and not enough release valves].

Here’s the killer number: Korver shot 58 percent on “stationary 3s,” classified as any 3-point try on which he moved less than six feet in the final second before launch. That blew away the rest of those 30 players; Kyle Lowry ranked second, at 53 percent. A “stationary” Korver triple was worth about 1.75 points, making it only slightly less valuable than a layup.

That is insane. That is why defenses react to any Korver movement with sheer terror, and Budenholzer uses that terror against opponents in crunch time.

The gurus at Stats LLC, the company behind the SportVU cameras, have developed two previously unreleased metrics designed to measure the amount of attention an offensive player gets from defenders when he doesn’t have the ball.

The first, dubbed “gravity score,” measures how often defenders are really guarding a particular player away from the ball. Korver had the fourth-highest score, behind only Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, and Paul George. The second — “distraction score” — is a related attempt to measure how often a player’s defender strays away from him to patrol the on-ball action. Korver had the lowest such score in the league.

Korver is a solid defender despite a reputation as a liability. His teams have generally defended at about the same level regardless of whether he’s on the floor, and the league’s emphasis on ball movement and shooting plays to his strengths on defense too.

Wing players in today’s NBA have to shift all over the floor as the opposing offense moves the ball, and Korver is always tugging in the right direction. He’s hyper-alert, glancing back and forth, computing what the eight players away from him are doing second by second without losing his guy.

He knows when to help from the weak side, when to stick with a corner shooter on the strong side, when to fake help, and when a crisis is afoot.

I felt Korver was a reach, but he is a really, really nice player.

 

[NUMBERICA]

So you are saying Rodney Hood and McDermott will suck?

One of them almost assuredly will. Historically speaking, they're both likely to not even make the NBA. I hope in our case that Hood is an exception but I just don't know about McDermott. He could be a nice player but I'm not sure how much you can play a guy that has no position defensively (as in, might not be able to guard almost anybody).

I could of course be ridiculously wrong about one or both of them. But putting rookies in your rotation and asking people to make a judgment with literally nothing real to go off of is a lot to ask.

 

[8]

I think Korver is a great fit on Hekate's team. He has enough playmakers where he can just throw Korver out there in most lineups to shoot 3's. Korver is kind of a pointless dude to have if the team has no people to create offense.

I think I'm leaning Hekate because he just has so much versatility on his team and can put together some scary offensive combinations. Screw what he puts for his starting lineup.

 

[Hekate]

^^
I agree. I think it's "homer syndrome." People tend to remember the good things about Korver and DMC and forget all the bad. Both are/should be bench players.
However, your bench is largely unknown. For me, it was almost a toss up.

Korver and Carroll are good at what they do. They are there to let Parker, Bosh and Howard do their jobs and if the defense overcommits on them, they are to punish. They won't be taking any low-percentage shots, they won't be spending time with the ball in their hands so there is no need them to better than their counterparts because basketball is a team game.

It is not like both of them will play 35 minutes a night. They are rotation players that will just start the game to create space and defend. Isaiah Thomas will come in and play with Parker, Paul Millsap will play with Bosh at center, Joe Johnson will go iso on some plays. It will be an offense where anything can happen.

 

[Hekate]

I think Korver is a great fit on Hekate's team. He has enough playmakers where he can just throw Korver out there in most lineups to shoot 3's. Korver is kind of a pointless dude to have if the team has no people to create offense.

I think I'm leaning Hekate because he just has so much versatility on his team and can put together some scary offensive combinations. Screw what he puts for his starting lineup.

Moving up to get Bosh, picking Korver because he was a great fit and Thomas because he had a great value where he was impaired my ability to pick a SF. Actually I chose Carroll and Ross within my last 3 picks.