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Siro said:
Both Log and Jonah resigned from games that were perfectly salvageable. Sure it would have difficult for them to win, but I personally would never resign unless defeat is certain. :p

Regardless, I remain undefeated. Will One Brow beat me? Will I go down as the best chess player in JF history? Will I be honored with a statue next to Malone and Stockton's? Only time will tell.
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Yep. Though as far as I remember Log was down a piece and many pro-players resign when they are down a piece and have no positional advantage. I think it depends on the importance of the game. Like, if you were in a tournament where you prefer resting for the next game you could withdraw at that point. But if you need points, you would go till the end and hope for mistakes, blunders etc.

But, Jonah's game honestly was way too early to resign. End games with rooks are extremely open to everything and being one pawn down definitely should not discourage the player. Especially if your pawn structure isn't damaged too much.


Siro said:
By the way, Enes, you can copy/paste the link above the one you're doing (the one with tags). That way it becomes clickab...aybe it was a momentarily bug of the website.
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Enes CanTear You Apart said:
Good Lord. Sir, I respect your game and decision but that's a very very early resign. I can assure you as a "once competitor chess player" that you can win many games coming from behind in the end games. I know I had many of those games. Especially after trading Queens and when you are rook to rook or rooks to rooks, it's so easy to make mistakes in the end games so even the very experienced players can make them. You just proved that actually with a simple mistake. But you didn't give any chance to yourself, at all.

But like I said, I respect your game. Maybe you just didn't have the time or will.
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I hear what you're saying and you make good points. It's true that I was kicking myself for my blunder and lost some fighting spirit. But I did try to make an objective decision: we were about to trade down to a rook and pawns ending and those can go for thirty or forty moves without resolution, I thought I'm down a pawn, playing very rusty, haven't played a serious game or a rated player in years, so the best I can reasonably hope for is a draw after many more hours of play. I thought the sporting thing to do was resign and play again another day. My attitude was I just want to sharpen my play, relearn a few openings so I'm not in the dark after five moves, and really just have some fun playing more games because the players here are a good group, but if people want to play a more fighting style of chess I can do that too. :)
 
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I was down 2 pawns and at a positional disadvantage, and it would likely have been a long drawn out end game. Since siro had made very few blatant mistakes it was reasonable to assume the same level of play in the end game, and frankly I want interested in a long pawn end game that I likely wouldn't win anyway. And I was kind of thinking along the same lines as jonah.
 
Jonah said:
I hear what you're saying and you make good points. It's true that I was kicking myself for my blunder and lost some fighting spirit. But I did try to make an objective decision: we were about to trade down to a rook and pawns ending and those can go for thirty or forty moves without resolution, I thought I'm down a pawn, playing very rusty, haven't played a serious game or a rated player in years, so the best I can reasonably hope for is a draw after many more hours of play. I thought the sporting thing to do was resign and play again another day. My attitude was I just want to sharpen my play, relearn a few openings so I'm not in the dark after five moves, and really just have some fun playing more games because the players here are a good group, but if people want to play a more fighting style of chess I can do that too. :)
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Fair enough. I can understand how you feel. I haven't played any chess too for years now and I also feel very rusty so I'm reluctant to play. I just finished a match of 7 games(5 min blitz) against a guy rated 1850 on a site and it ended 5 to 2. At my peak, I used to compete with those 1800-1900 rated players much better and I was about to improve my rating to their levels.

LogGrad98 said:
I was down 2 pawns and at a positional disadvantage, and it would likely have been a long drawn out end game. Since siro had made very few blatant mistakes it was reasonable to assume the same level of play in the end game, and frankly I want interested in a long pawn end game that I likely wouldn't win anyway. And I was kind of thinking along the same lines as jonah.
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Hmm, I revisited your game. You are right, you weren't down a piece, you were behind 2 pawns but Siro had huge positional advantage. His extra pawns were inside of the wings and his pawn structure was perfect. One of the wings was going to reach to the final rank inevitably. You got to be a complete beginner to ruin that advantage. So in your case, I think it was the right thing to resign.
 


1. Nf3 e6
2. g3 Nc6
3. Bg2 Be7
4. d4 f5
5. b3 Nf6
6. Bb2
 
One Brow vs. Siro



1. d4 d5
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Bb4
5. e3 Nc6
6. Nf3 0-0
7. Bd3 Be7
8. 0-0 b6
9. Qc2 dxc4
10. Bxc4 Nb4
11. Qb3 Bb7
12. Bxf6 gxf6
13. a3
 


1. Nf3 e6
2. g3 Nc6
3. Bg2 Be7
4. d4 f5
5. b3 Nf6
6. Bb2 0-0
7. c4
 


1. d4 d5
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Bb4
5. e3 Nc6
6. Nf3 0-0
7. Bd3 Be7
8. 0-0 b6
9. Qc2 dxc4
10. Bxc4 Nb4
11. Qb3 Bb7
12. Bxf6 gxf6
13. a3 Nd5
 
ONe Brow vx. Siro



1. d4 d5
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Bb4
5. e3 Nc6
6. Nf3 0-0
7. Bd3 Be7
8. 0-0 b6
9. Qc2 dxc4
10. Bxc4 Nb4
11. Qb3 Bb7
12. Bxf6 gxf6
13. a3 Nd5
14. Nxd5
 


1. d4 d5
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Bb4
5. e3 Nc6
6. Nf3 0-0
7. Bd3 Be7
8. 0-0 b6
9. Qc2 dxc4
10. Bxc4 Nb4
11. Qb3 Bb7
12. Bxf6 gxf6
13. a3 Nd5
14. Nxd5 Bxd5
 
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