GM #9: 11/12/2014 - Utah Jazz(3-5) @ Atlanta Hawks(3-3) [5.30 PM MDT, 7.30 PM ET and 1.30 AM CET]

[GVC]

Those shots will be there with 5 seconds left. No reason to take them with 14 seconds left. Work for a better shot.

If you're referring to the pull-ups, absolutely. That shot will be available with <7 seconds left. There's no reason to shoot them with 15 seconds left on the shot clock. Even with <7 seconds left on the clock, I'm not sure a 20-foot pull-up is any better than putting your head down and barreling toward the rim.

I think you have to shoot the open spot-ups, however. Even those from just inside the 3-point line.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I agree.
The question is, should the jazz players just pass up those open shots or keep shooting them?

If we pass those looks up, we might end up taking a more difficult shot later in the possession/shot clock

I'm not sure. I'm looking at the Jazz's shot chart by quarter, and they did a much better job getting to the rim in quarters 1 - 3 vs. the 4th quarter. It depends who has the open look, but most of our guys would be better off driving and trying to make a play at the rim. We didn't have many free-throw attempts, and the Hawks didn't have many blocks. I'd like to see the Jazz challenge their match-ups physically.

 

[Game6Conley]

Reply honestly: would you prefer that the Jazz win, or that you be right? I'm just curious.

has this ever been in question here?!?! the true answer to your question is both, its complex, because im hedged all sorts of ways.

jeez, yall certainly have plenty of bad things to say about me... but dont really seem to know my deal... whatsoever..

Im a bettor first and fan 2nd, but its not close. my allegiance is to winning. I view these more as opportunities than games or entertainment, tbh, It wouldnt hold my attention otherwise...

I'd have never stopped being a Knicks fan if that wasnt the case, Im not emotionally attatched to any of these teams, that leaves room for error. i bet for and against all of them, I felt it was best for my learning curve to switch squads and dissect another fanbases psychology.

 

[fishonjazz]

I don't think any coach wants his players to take long 2s early in the clock.

That's what I thought..... but that seems to be a staple of this offense and all of our wings/perimeter guys do it..... So wouldn't that have to be getting encouraged by snyder to a certain extent?

 

[fishonjazz]

but most of our guys would be better off driving and trying to make a play at the rim.

What if the defense is sagging off and clogging the middle?
Don't we need to shoot those open jumpers to keep the defense honest?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I feel like both Favors and Kanter should be physical players who get deep position, pump fake, draw fouls and score inside. I'd like to see our bigs play inside more and shoot just a few jumpers to keep defenses honest. Neither Horford or Millsap would have been able to stop our guys consistently. Kanter didn't get to the line at all tonight. Favors had 4 attempts. Either of them could have had 8 attempts or more if they wanted to.

 

[Hantlers]

has this ever been in question here?!?! the true answer to your question is both, its complex, because im hedged all sorts of ways.

jeez, yall certainly have plenty of bad things to say about me... but dont really seem to know my deal... whatsoever..

Im a bettor first and fan 2nd, but its not close. my allegiance is to winning. I view these more as opportunities than games or entertainment, tbh, It wouldnt hold my attention otherwise...

I'd have never stopped being a Knicks fan if that wasnt the case, Im not emotionally attatched to any of these teams, that leaves room for error. i bet for and against all of them, I felt it was best for my learning curve to switch squads and dissect another fanbases psychology.

So you'd rather be right. That's what I thought.

Still waiting on that timeline btw.

 

[GVC]

What if the defense is sagging off and clogging the middle?
Don't we need to shoot those open jumpers to keep the defense honest?

Then you should be able to turn 20-foot pull-up jumpers early in the shot clock into spot-up 3s.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

What if the defense is sagging off and clogging the middle?
Don't we need to shoot those open jumpers to keep the defense honest?

Not if we can't hit those shots. An open 15 - 18 foot shot is a good look for some players and not a good look for others.

When Carmello Anthony was at Denver, George Karl used to tell him to get two inside scoring opportunities for every jumper. I feel like that logic should apply to both Kanter and Favors. Who on the Hawks is going to stop them?

Millsap is going to give up 2 fouls at least for every block he gets. He's really giving up 3 or 4 inches on either Favors or Kanter.

 

[Deleted member 848]

has this ever been in question here?!?! the true answer to your question is both, its complex, because im hedged all sorts of ways.

jeez, yall certainly have plenty of bad things to say about me... but dont really seem to know my deal... whatsoever..

Im a bettor first and fan 2nd, but its not close. my allegiance is to winning. I view these more as opportunities than games or entertainment, tbh, It wouldnt hold my attention otherwise...

I'd have never stopped being a Knicks fan if that wasnt the case, Im not emotionally attatched to any of these teams, that leaves room for error. i bet for and against all of them, I felt it was best for my learning curve to switch squads and dissect another fanbases psychology.

So did Dennis murder Burke? Or?


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[fishonjazz]

Then you should be able to turn 20-foot pull-up jumpers early in the shot clock into spot-up 3s.

So again I ask

That's what I thought..... but that seems to be a staple of this offense and all of our wings/perimeter guys do it..... So wouldn't that have to be getting encouraged by snyder to a certain extent?

 

[Hekate]

That's what I thought..... but that seems to be a staple of this offense and all of our wings/perimeter guys do it..... So wouldn't that have to be getting encouraged by snyder to a certain extent?

Well, it's easier to shoot the pull-up(not make them). Trey and Alec can sometimes get a little bit trigger happy and Hay forced it tonight but I don't feel we are taking that many. I haven't looked at any stats or shot charts, though. I also missed the last 2-3 games.