Game Thread: Utah @ Golden State 8:30PM MST

[Deleted member 365]

That is nice. Exum is so fast.

I would also like to see the Exum to Gobert alley oop from the second quarter. I was listening to the game and the fans in oracle gave an audible "ooooh!"

Edit: Found it! Amazing. Exum and Gobert have some good chemistry going on. They are the Future.

[video=youtube_share;xeMf93Z8HAY]https://youtu.be/xeMf93Z8HAY

Weren't the Spurs originally interested in Gobert?

Could you imagine Gobert and Duncan playing together? The Twin Towers Reincarnated. No one would be able to score on them.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Correct me if I'm wrong... But wasn't Al Harrington or Steve Jackson guarding Boozer in 07? what looked like a terrible matchup for us, turned out to be a huge disadvantage for them.

We didn't have the athletes to beat the Warriors in 07. We certainly don't in 14-15. But we do have some bigs. If you can't out quick teams who are going small ball, then go big and try to bury them inside.

This is why the Grizz would rip up the Warriors. Yes, the Warriors would have some sweet runs. But in the end, that frontline would be just too much for the Warriors to handle.

The Jazz without a dominant wing (Lebron, Kobe, KD, etc) will never beat some of these better teams without establishing a low post presence. As much as his league has gone crazy for stretch 4s, all the best teams still have low post players (Duncan, Griffin, zbo/Gasol, Lamarcus, etc). The best way for us to win is Hayward in the midrange and Favors/kanter down low.

I do think Kanter was our best bet. He should have destroyed Barnes on the post, but his weak passing made him vulnerable to double teams and he turned the ball over 5 times.

 

[stitches]

The way to beat the Warriors is the exact same as it was in 07, 97, and 87... Pound the hell out of them inside.

They always seem to have outstanding guard play. Whether it be Mullen, Baron and the gang, or the Splash Bros. Bogut, is the game changer. I can't remember the last time they've had a defensive big like that. But he's only one man. Pound him inside, get him in foul trouble, score pts in the paint.

I didn't like our game plan. Had sloan employed Snyder's game plan in 07, GS would have had another sweep. Had Snyder employed Sloan's game plan, Kanter and Favors would have played 35+ mins and scored 60+ pts and 30+ rebounds combined. Kanter should have been our cbooz last night. Instead, I saw Kanter sit through long stretches.

Teams that don't hammer the Warriors inside will lose due to the insane amount of shooting they have out on the perimeter.

We tried! We were trying to feed Kanter and Favors inside. We tried to bang against Bogut. Our bigs are just not good enough! They got shut down in the first quarter inside. Bogut got several stops when I could swear he fouled Favors but we never got a foul called. After that it looked like we just gave up...

 

[Jazz4ever]

From Locke: The Warriors were switching 1 thru 4 on all picks and the Jazz didn’t know how to react to this.


The loss is on Quin. Someone ripped up the Jazz script and they didn't have a teleprompter.

 

[Deleted member 365]

We tried! We were trying to feed Kanter and Favors inside. We tried to bang against Bogut. Our bigs are just not good enough! They got shut down in the first quarter inside. Bogut got several stops when I could swear he fouled Favors but we never got a foul called. After that it looked like we just gave up...

False.

When Kanter sits almost an entire qtr in the first half we did not try.

 

[Nate505]

From Locke: The Warriors were switching 1 thru 4 on all picks and the Jazz didn’t know how to react to this.


The loss is on Quin. Someone ripped up the Jazz script and they didn't have a teleprompter.

Yeah, this loss is on Quin (and the small fact that the Warriors are a vastly superior team to the Jazz and the game was in Oakland)

 

[NUMBERICA]

The way to beat the Warriors is the exact same as it was in 07, 97, and 87... Pound the hell out of them inside.

They always seem to have outstanding guard play. Whether it be Mullen, Baron and the gang, or the Splash Bros. Bogut, is the game changer. I can't remember the last time they've had a defensive big like that. But he's only one man. Pound him inside, get him in foul trouble, score pts in the paint.

I didn't like our game plan. Had sloan employed Snyder's game plan in 07, GS would have had another sweep. Had Snyder employed Sloan's game plan, Kanter and Favors would have played 35+ mins and scored 60+ pts and 30+ rebounds combined. Kanter should have been our cbooz last night. Instead, I saw Kanter sit through long stretches.

Teams that don't hammer the Warriors inside will lose due to the insane amount of shooting they have out on the perimeter.

29 of the best coaches that have ever lived, take heart! Thriller's on the case. Don't let the record or point differential confuse you, the Warriors aren't that good and easily exploited. Because this guy knows something.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Weren't the Spurs originally interested in Gobert?

Could you imagine Gobert and Duncan playing together? The Twin Towers Reincarnated. No one would be able to score on them.

More keen nuggets of wisdom. I believe that would be a first! Neato.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Based on tonight's game, I would say the following are our most talented players right now (in order):

1) Hayward
2) Kanter
3) Exum
4) Gobert
5) Favors
6) Burks
7) Ingles
8) Burke

By "talented" I mean players who can make a play on both sides of the court without relying on the system to spoonfeed them.

talent =/= ability

 

[Nate505]

Seriously, did anyone expect a win out of this game? If so you're delusional, other than hoping for that once in a season upset. (Not that anyone really did, but I don't see why people are so angry the Jazz got spanked by a much superior team on the road...that happens in the NBA).

Right now the Jazz have lost to the Mavs (twice), Rockets, Clippers, Pacers, Hawks, Raptors, and Warriors. The only embarrassing loss on that list is the Pacers loss, though the Hawks loss is the one that pains me the most since they should have won that game. The Jazz are losing to superior teams, and beating the teams they should hopefully be beating at this stage of their progression. And they haven't even hit December yet.

The Pelicans at home is a pretty good test. The Pelicans are the better team (or at the very least have a guy who is becoming a true superstar), but this is a game the Jazz can win if they are better than we think they are.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

Seriously, did anyone expect a win out of this game? If so you're delusional, other than hoping for that once in a season upset. (Not that anyone really did, but I don't see why people are so angry the Jazz got spanked by a much superior team on the road...that happens in the NBA).

Right now the Jazz have lost to the Mavs (twice), Rockets, Clippers, Pacers, Hawks, Raptors, and Warriors. The only embarrassing loss on that list is the Pacers loss, though the Hawks loss is the one that pains me the most since they should have won that game. The Jazz are losing to superior teams, and beating the teams they should hopefully be beating at this stage of their progression. And they haven't even hit December yet.

The Pelicans at home is a pretty good test. The Pelicans are the better team (or at the very least have a guy who is becoming a true superstar), but this is a game the Jazz can win if they are better than we think they are.

"THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!"

 

[Deleted member 365]

Seriously, did anyone expect a win out of this game? If so you're delusional, other than hoping for that once in a season upset. (Not that anyone really did, but I don't see why people are so angry the Jazz got spanked by a much superior team on the road...that happens in the NBA).

Right now the Jazz have lost to the Mavs (twice), Rockets, Clippers, Pacers, Hawks, Raptors, and Warriors. The only embarrassing loss on that list is the Pacers loss, though the Hawks loss is the one that pains me the most since they should have won that game. The Jazz are losing to superior teams, and beating the teams they should hopefully be beating at this stage of their progression. And they haven't even hit December yet.

The Pelicans at home is a pretty good test. The Pelicans are the better team (or at the very least have a guy who is becoming a true superstar), but this is a game the Jazz can win if they are better than we think they are.

I don't think many expected a win.

I don't think asking the Jazz to NOT create 25+ pt deficits and barely even compete is too much to ask. Our record isn't nearly as important as HOW we play. That's why so many are upset after last night. The game plan sucked, the substitution patterns were Ty Corbin like, and the fight from most of the team was lacking.