orangello
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It's been ugly. I'm still a little foggy as to why he's still getting close to 20 minutes per game.
Favors and Kanter quietly both showing 20/10 potential
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Honestly I thought the same...but other teams are well-aware of his value...he will get paid like Hayward.
Sexual Favors
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Booker per 36 is 13.9 Pts s on .534% Fg, 7.1 Reb, 17.2% tov, 7.8 ORb%, 15.3 DRB % 11.6TRB%, 58% from FT!!!, 38% from 3 (pretty good). Booker is also 27 and 6'7"
Kanter per 36 is 19.9 pts on 55% FG, 9.5 reb on 11.3 % ORB (one of the best in league), 20% DRB, 15.7 TRB%, 76% FT, and 31% from 3. Kanter is 6'11" and 22!!!
Kanter's PER is 19.20
A PER of 15 is an average NBA starter.
Booker's PER is 14.46
Booker is not a replacement, he is a very, very clear downgrade.
All stats from Basketball-Reference, except PER's were gathered from ESPN.
orangello
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I'm assuming that those are for the entire season. I bet they look drastically worse if it was based on the last two weeks.
Sexual Favors
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Yes, whole season.
Kanter would look much improved if this was the past two week split, while Booker would look markedly worse.
GVC
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Kanter's been playing much better recently, but the stats you use aren't terribly convincing.
PER is absolute garbage. It's just a repackaging of boxscore stats, the accumulation of which require a player to have terminal possession of the ball (in almost all cases). Only one player has terminal possession of the ball, so PER ignores the contributions of 9 players on the court during a change in possession (or 8 for a turnover or when a basket is assisted), and ignores the contributions of all 10 players the rest of the time. Kanter's problems are in team play (mostly when he doesn;t have the ball): Positional defense, help defense, spacing, making quick reads/decisions/passes on offense, etc. These are all incredibly important aspects of basketball, but none of them are captured in the boxscore or, by extension, PER. Booker, on the other hand, has a pretty good feel for the game, and consistently makes good, quick decisions, and executes them well.
TBH, I think some of that may have been happening. The argument for sitting Kanter I guess is his defense, but Booker and Novak aren't an improvement, especially when you consider rebounding.
Crawlnstall
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Still wanting to know what happened to Booker. He played with a ton of fire and was a huge spark off of the bench. Now he seems to be struggling to get a flow. I still really like the guy and all, but dang something happened
addictionary
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So another reason is already in the pocket to tell why Enes performs bad when he does this year.
In my opinion, if a player has a decent base for fundamentals, it shouldn't take that much to get used to a league or a system. The biggest disadvantage this young guy always had is he always competed againt smaller guys and looked better than he already is. But he has a sweet touch for his size and willing to improve. Also the great lowpost moves we all are familiar to. I think Quin is experimenting with him, discovering his limits, so he doesn't get him to low post as much. a position where he can benefit a lot because of his size if Favors moves away from the rim a bit as a mid range threat. This is probably something the coach does to increase his trade value. He will bargain with "hey this guy also shoots threes". And this experiment will widen Kanter's skillset imho.
jumpin bean
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Kanter started basketball late.didnt get a lot of PT under Corbin.his only coach b4 Quin was Big Al and he learned some sick footwork.Kanter is a sponge and quick learner considering his limited coaching.He will be special but the Jazz due have to try and keep the price down.You Kanter haters better take up some meds or weed or something because the Jazz are going to resign Kanter and he is going to be around for a long while.His defense will improve and the Jazz know it,they are just throwing it out there about his D to try and keep the price down.