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2 miracle game winners away from same 18 game record as last year

Hayward is becoming something close to an All Star.
Burks has nights where he looks like a 6th man of the year.
Favors continues to improve slowly.
Exum shows glimpses of what our defense could be in the future.
Gobert changes the game with his help defense.

There are definitely positives.
 
Catchall said:
The Jazz's bench tonight got outscored by 25 pts in a 2-pt loss. If you want, you can look at the bright side and say our starters outscored theirs by 23 pts. This is how the Jazz are rebuilding---throw the young players into the fire and make the bench bad enough to keep us lottery competitive.
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I would assume Denver has one of the best benches in the NBA.
 
Spinoza said:
There are different ways to look at. After 18 games we have been outscored by 101 points. After 18 games last year it was 174 points. So we were about 70% worse at this time last year based on that. And of course point differential is seen as a strong indicator of actual strength since wins/losses doesn't account for blow outs as compared to close losses.
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Spinoza is spot on. Go ahead and adjust for points scored and pace of play... it won't tell a very different story. We have been in these games and playing better. There is fight in the team where as last year we rolled over almost every game. The style of play is a 100% turn around. I yelled at the TV all last year because there was no hope of getting better doing the same things. This year, I can see growth, hope, a fun style of basketball, and some bad stretches that put us behind.
 
its not that I dont like our players, i'm just venting that nothing's translated on the w/l sheet yet, and that the games have become less and less enjoyable to watch. i see Hayward blowing up into a borderline star in front of our eyes, and exum w/ flashes and etc. I get that this is takes a while but anyway calling me out for being a "bad fan" after "ONLY 1 YEAR OF REBUILDING" is not being honest or fair to what fans have gone through the last several years. obviously bitching about it isn't suddenly going to make us good again, but this is a fan forum, and I am venting.
 
Sneakers said:
how long we been rebuilding bro? 5+
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I say 2 years...... with this being the first year doing it properly with our core and our coach.
 
Sneakers said:
how long is my patience supposed to last, serious question
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Only you can answer that. I don't know you.

Sneakers said:
kinda unfair to call a fan impatient after wanting a somewhat competitively improved team after the year we had last year.
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Again, if you don't see that the team is competitive regardless of whether they are winning games, I'm not sure what to tell you. You think it's unfair for me to call you impatient? Well, you sound like an entitled millennial who wants everything now. I'm guessing you're in your mid-20's?
 
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