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Who would you take: Player A or Player B

Which player would you take?

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Well, Paul George had a +6 on/off split for a conference finalist team and Hayward has a +10 on/off split for a lottery team.

What do you think the on/off split would be if the roles were reversed?
 
PKM said:
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I didn't want to mess-up the exercise of the OP, my good sir. I know full-well you have the power of knowledge and secrets; you are the key master, so to speak, of Jazzfanz.
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Darkwing Duck said:
Well, Paul George had a +6 on/off split for a conference finalist team and Hayward has a +10 on/off split for a lottery team.

What do you think the on/off split would be if the roles were reversed?
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Hard to say. I wanna believe that Hayward This year could be as good as George Last year for the Pacers. I think George is a batter Rebounder and Defender but not worlds better. Hayward is still good in both. Don't know if it still holds but a few weeks ago Hayward was the 5th best isolation player in the league. NBA.com ran the piece that included that info. Don't think Paul George is as good on ISO and Hayward is also a better play maker.
 
Batman said:
Hard to say. I wanna believe that Hayward This year could be as good as George Last year for the Pacers. I think George is a batter Rebounder and Defender but not worlds better. Hayward is still good in both. Don't know if it still holds but a few weeks ago Hayward was the 5th best isolation player in the league. NBA.com ran the piece that included that info. Don't think Paul George is as good on ISO and Hayward is also a better play maker.
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Well, for players of their caliber, it would be fairly accurate, I think, to say that George is average on offense and above average on defense and the reverse is true for Hayward. The question then becomes whether the degree that each player is above average either supersedes or outpaces the other. Strangely enough, each player seems to make spectacular plays at their "average" ability (George on offense and Hayward on defense) and just are all around solid on their above average side.

I think George comes out slightly ahead, all things considered.
 
I'm so sick of the national media giving George tons of love and thinking he's way better than Hayward. Such bull. Even guys like Stephen A Smith would think it was blasphemy to say Hayward is on the same lvl, but the stats obviously suggest he is. Even Skip Bayless said after Hayward made the game winner against the Cavs that he's "Not a Hayward fan." Lame if you ask me. Hayward is a really nice player. I think he might even be a top 30 player in the league. Certianly top 40.
 
I also think that when it comes to Hayward the national media attaches all white stereotypes to him. Can't defend anyone. Can barely dunk. He's a shooter. Its not, What the hell!!! Are you blind, you D bag national media piece of crap who obviously has not watched a Jazz game since freakin Stockton and Malone!
 
Batman said:
Hard to say. I wanna believe that Hayward This year could be as good as George Last year for the Pacers. I think George is a batter Rebounder and Defender but not worlds better. Hayward is still good in both. Don't know if it still holds but a few weeks ago Hayward was the 5th best isolation player in the league. NBA.com ran the piece that included that info. Don't think Paul George is as good on ISO and Hayward is also a better play maker.
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Good post.
I'm happy to say that at this point Hayward vs George is a very legitimate argument.

Especially when you factor in salary and health
 
George also plays for a team that has a horrid offensive system. That definitely plays a role in his offensive stats.
 
George has the edge on rebounding but that cause Hibbert is like the worst rebounding center in the league. Hayward would likely have an uptick if he played for the Pacers. I am confident George's rebounding averages would go down if he played for a team like the Wizards or Bulls.
 
I remember comparing hayward to george last year, and people blasting me. It's crazy that hayward has progressed so much this year. He is a good player, and if george is a super star, hayward is at least an all star when this team is winning.
 
I like Hayward's offensive game much more than George's. He's a better playmaker and I believe he can fit within any offensive system better. His awareness and BBIQ are better imo. George has got all that extra athleticism doe. They seem about even to me. Both are better than the other on opposite sides of the ball. I think George's individual ability tends to be a bit overstated due to his team's success, and Hayward's a bit underrated due to the team's lack of success - but I'm pretty fricking biased so idk.
 
Doing a similar thing for Durant vs. Westbrook this season would be interesting
 
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