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Kanter traded to OKC

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Would have been cool to see Lamb come over only because it would have involved the rare swap of 2 humans and 0 brains.
 
GVC said:
1. Not sure I understand. My point is that moving Kanter doesn't create any cap space for the Jazz, since the Jazz could always have just let Kanter walk or sign elsewhere (which includes rescinding the QO before Kanter accepts it).

2. That 2nd rounder (plus a mostly useless Novak) cost the Jazz nearly $4mm in 2015/16 cap space and Diante. That's a hefty price for a 2nd round pick. It was a bad trade.

All I'm trying to point out is that the Jazz only gain cap space by dumping Novak, and that Novak should never have been acquired in the first place. As such, I see no reason to be excited about this extra space. The Jazz now get to choose between trying to get an NBA player in free agency OR bringing over Tomic/Pleiss. A 2018 late-1st and a couple 2nds are pretty meh.

Without considering what DL might have been able to get for Kanter had he been a little more proactive (this is his first in-season trade IIRC), this trade grades out at a C AT BEST for the Jazz. However, I can;t help but think that DL could have got at least a little bit more had he acted a bit sooner.
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Well, it was used cap space already for the Jazz. This past offseason didn't have marquee free agents to get, so the Jazz used cap space that was already allotted to Novak to get an asset, as the Jazz were below the floor. Garrett was a replacement player, so there was no value there, thus no bearing on the quality of the deal.

Jazz get the cap space at the beginning of the FA period rather than after the mythical renouncing. This is an important distinction especially if the Jazz ink an offer sheet to an RFA. Jazz would have to renounce Kanter to sign that deal, and if there's a match, then Jazz are out two players. Jazz got some assets out of this trade. A future first is a better trade chip, especially since it's after Durant's contract ends, than a sign and traded Kanter, and gives Jazz more flexibility.

The assets aren't that great in my opinion, but the historical price for trading into the top 5 should the Jazz not occupy a pick there is 3 first rounders, and the Jazz now have that affordability without being left without a pick in a year.

I doubt the Jazz will have to make a decision on having EITHER the Euro players OR an NBA free agent next year. Looks like the Jazz will go into the summer with around 45 M in salaries with 4 M in cap holds rather than 48 M with 16 M in cap holds, a 15 M difference. Caps going to be, what, 70 M next year? Plenty of space now rather than having to make a decision on Kanter first.
 
I'm actually intrigued by this Tibor Pleiss, been checking him out, looks like he's got some moves in the low post.
 
I'm pretty excited. We traded Deron in part for Kanter. Then we let Millsap go to make room for Kanter. Now we traded Kanter so we could free up cap space to sign Millsap. Hopfully we could then eye a mid-season deal to send Millsap to OKC for Enes.
 
Jamezz said:
I'm actually intrigued by this Tibor Pleiss, been checking him out, looks like he's got some moves in the low post.
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Grant Jerrett could be a part of our future. Looks like the ideal stretch 4 to play alongside Favors or Gobert. From clips it looks like the dude can shoot.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Well, it was used cap space already for the Jazz. This past offseason didn't have marquee free agents to get, so the Jazz used cap space that was already allotted to Novak to get an asset, as the Jazz were below the floor. Garrett was a replacement player, so there was no value there, thus no bearing on the quality of the deal.

Jazz get the cap space at the beginning of the FA period rather than after the mythical renouncing. This is an important distinction especially if the Jazz ink an offer sheet to an RFA. Jazz would have to renounce Kanter to sign that deal, and if there's a match, then Jazz are out two players. Jazz got some assets out of this trade. A future first is a better trade chip, especially since it's after Durant's contract ends, than a sign and traded Kanter, and gives Jazz more flexibility.

The assets aren't that great in my opinion, but the historical price for trading into the top 5 should the Jazz not occupy a pick there is 3 first rounders, and the Jazz now have that affordability without being left without a pick in a year.

I doubt the Jazz will have to make a decision on having EITHER the Euro players OR an NBA free agent next year. Looks like the Jazz will go into the summer with around 45 M in salaries with 4 M in cap holds rather than 48 M with 16 M in cap holds, a 15 M difference. Caps going to be, what, 70 M next year? Plenty of space now rather than having to make a decision on Kanter first.
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Plus we have extra liquid assets come draft time. Kanter could not have been traded during the draft... these picks or prospects can. These small assets might push us over the top.

Lets say the Lakers are sitting there at 3 and we are at 7... you'd have to at least think about trading the 3 for the 7 plus two other first round picks. Sixers took on two years and 20 M of Javale McGee for mid/late first rounder. These picks have value.
 
Losing both Millsap and Kanter in less than 2 seasons it is hard to digest.

I just really hope that Gobert is not a "soap bubble".
 
Good deal for OKC

They get:
Kanter/Augustine/Singler and get rid of Perkins contract

For

Reggie Jackson and a late 1st round pick that probably won't amount to much

We helped Golden State get where they are today, might as well help the Thunder too.
 
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