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Hayward still unhappy?

He always seemed, to me, a bit enigmatic in relation to his affection for the city, the fans, the organization. This was a bit surprising since it would be very unlikely that he would be "the man" in any other good team.

Money aside, I think one of the main variables in play will be the overall team performance. I highly doubt he would walk away from a Jazz team that made a big step forward, like winning 50 games and reaching the Conference Semifinals. It would be very unlikely that he would find a franchise in better condition than that in which he could be the leading player. If even a great overall team season and the max (or near-max) contract doesn't make him stay, I'd say "Good riddance!", since it is not possible to keep someone against his will.
 
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But I do think this is crap. According to Locke Hayward and his wife haven't been huge fans of Utah but it's been growing on them. Not sure what that means but Locke has been confident he's not going anywhere.

I hope mother slap it from your Mouth!!!
 
I'm not acting like it's an "article" of any kind. I think that's pretty clear in what I've said.

I like it when you don't post, btw.

You don't like the thread or when I post but you have repeatedly responded to this thread....on a weekend...

Your life sounds super exciting....
 
If Hayward wanted to go to the Clippers to play with an elite PG, I could see that maybe. I'm not sure Boston is all that attractive an opportunity when it's said and done. Would he go to Indiana to play with Paul George? If the Jazz take a step forward, as planned, they should probably convince Hayward to stay. I think the Jazz would max Hayward without blinking. The question here is whether they'll want to or be able to also max Favors.
 
How BeanClown could have inferred "Hayward still unhappy" from the article is beyond me. And then to take it the next step to "as good as gone" is ridiculous. Last year he spent his offseason in Indiana. This year? Utah. Yep, sure seems like he's decided to leave. But the Utah Chamber of Commerce will be happy he's building a new home; at least it indicates he wants to come back to visit.

If I were Gordon, I know that I would have expressed my displeasure with playing for a losing team and the FO refusing to spend money for a bench. And I likely would have said, "either do something or trade me." I'd actually respect Hayward MORE if something like that had happened.

So Dennis met with Gordon (that is a fact DL revealed) and then DL adds some quality vets. I think Utah is committed to paying Gordon the max. And they can pay more than any other team. Sure, he could leave. I'd probably put the odds at 75/25 for him staying. A lot of that, IMO, depends on how Utah does. It's not like he can go to GS, Cleveland or SA for the max. So Utah may in fact be the best team he could join. And I think the Brad Stevens thing is overplayed. Sure that was his college coach, but he will have been under Quin for just as long.
 
In my opinion Hayward's tradability should depend on the Jazz record after the first 40-50 games of the upcoming season. If they are securely in playoff position then keep him till the end of the season. If they fail unexpectedly the beginning of the season then trade him before the 2017 trade deadline.
 
If Hayward wanted to go to the Clippers to play with an elite PG, I could see that maybe. I'm not sure Boston is all that attractive an opportunity when it's said and done. Would he go to Indiana to play with Paul George? If the Jazz take a step forward, as planned, they should probably convince Hayward to stay. I think the Jazz would max Hayward without blinking. The question here is whether they'll want to or be able to also max Favors.

I think Hayward could potentially want to be reunited with his old college coach in Boston. I think DL would trade Hayward if a deal was right but evidently Boston doesn't have the pieces needed to do a trade DL likes.
 
You don't like the thread or when I post but you have repeatedly responded to this thread....on a weekend...

Your life sounds super exciting....

I've been out on the boat all day with a big Bud Light Boner, towing hunnies on my ****ing dingy.
 
I haven't heard Locke say this once.

I think this is the first year Hayward has actually stayed in Utah in the off-season for the majority of the time. I still think it's hilarious the last major player we traded (D-Will) because we were worried about him staying Utah still lives in Utah and spends most of his off-season time here.
 
Just speculation on my part, but I would imagine that he must have given them some indication that he will re-sign if they are so adamant about not trading him.
 
Just speculation on my part, but I would imagine that he must have given them some indication that he will re-sign if they are so adamant about not trading him.

They would say this regardless of their belief about re-signing Hayward. If they thought he was leaving they would posture to get both of the Net's first round picks owned by the Celtics. It is a chess match.
 
I haven't heard Locke say this once.

He talked about it shortly after these rumors started. Saying his wife felt she wasn't fitting in... also being super homesick. But now with having kids they felt like they were fitting in more.

His wife basically graduated high school, got married and moved to Utah.
 
I think this is the first year Hayward has actually stayed in Utah in the off-season for the majority of the time. I still think it's hilarious the last major player we traded (D-Will) because we were worried about him staying Utah still lives in Utah and spends most of his off-season time here.

That wasn't why he was traded.
 
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