On this point, I absolutely think you are right.
Police shoots another unarmed black man for no reason.
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On this point, I absolutely think you are right.
Charlotte Police Chief just came out and said that the video of the shooting will not be made public, the Charlotte mayor is considering a curfew and the N. Carolina Gov. has mobilized the state troopers and National Guard. Some ugly reports coming out of Charlotte.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/us/charlotte-protests/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/us/charlotte-protests/index.html
Joe Bagadonuts
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Wow. Not good. I don't understand their unwillingness to release the video at all, unless they are lying. I have heard several claims that not only was there a gun, but Scott was also wearing an ankle holster. They say the video/photos show that. Why not release them? Is there something on the video that could make this situation even worse?
One natural thought from being told they will not release the video is "what are they hiding?".
Also reports of assaults (some racially based), a shooting, vandalism, looting, arson...
One thing I did see was that the man that started the "Hug A Cop" campaign was on the front lines in Charlotte last night. Life streaming his video. Trying to keep the protests non violent, expressions of love, sadness, unity...
Now that man is a model for us all. He spoke up, was a leader, and was trying to heal and unite. To find a solution. And he did so in a way that put his physical safety at risk. He walked the walk.
The Tulsa, OK officer is going to be charged with manslaughter.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/us/tulsa-officer-charged/index.html?adkey=bn
https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/us/tulsa-officer-charged/index.html?adkey=bn
fgcamel
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I feel like that is pretty much the highest possible charge in this case right?
Boondocksaint27
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From an investigative standpoint, you want to make sure that the investigation is completely finished prior to releasing a video that potentially taints a local jury pool, grand jury, or civil litigation hearing
MVP
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May justice be served.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Meanwhile the city gets destroyed. I would think they could at least show it to community leaders (pastors, mayors, reporters, etc.) so that those people could tell the citizens whether the shooting appeared to have justification or not. The way it's been handled so far makes it appear to the protestors that the police have something to hide. That's not doing the community any favors.
RJF
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Burning their own communities down also doesn't help.
When people feel disenfranchised and when they do not directly benefit from the economic activity in their neighborhood they really don't see it as "their" community they are burning down. It's not really owned by them. It's a reservation for poor black people. The real owners and the people who will have to pay to rebuild it certainly aren't the ones tearing it apart.
Red
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Here's the family's description to this point, they having seen the videos. I imagine releasing them could actually make matters worse, although the family would like the public to see them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/us/charlotte-protests-keith-scott.html?_r=0
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/us/charlotte-protests-keith-scott.html?_r=0
lessee. . . Most States have more than one class of murder, all of which are more serious charges. Usually defined by an intention, a plan. Manslaughter is usually unintended but due to some form of negligence. Prosecutors usually know what the state laws require, and usually do not blanch at overstating the charges because it allows for leverage in settling the case by a plea deal.
fgcamel
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I probably know a lot less about the civil rights movement than most of you. But it seems to me, that protests in the past were successful because they actually helped lead to legislative change, for example march on washington -> civil rights act, selma movement -> Voting Rights Act.
So do you guys think it's possible these protests can lead to anything like that? (and what would that be?) and if not, do you think anything positive can still be gained?
I definitely think the movement is lacking clear leadership.
So do you guys think it's possible these protests can lead to anything like that? (and what would that be?) and if not, do you think anything positive can still be gained?
I definitely think the movement is lacking clear leadership.
fgcamel
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Yea, this is pretty much what I was getting at. There's no way she wouldn't get off a murder charge.
Boondocksaint27
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The mayor and governor have seen it according to the reports I've read/seen on the news. Both have released statements, and I heard the governor on the news last night saying the video corroborated statements by the police and calling for calm. There are agendas by reporters so you could show them the video and they may still push that agenda regardless of which side they fall on, and I haven't ever seen a reporter call for calm or attempt to calm a situation. They just roll cameras for the best footage. We're what, two days removed from this in Charlotte? I'd suggest to give it time.
Boondocksaint27
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Just a guess, but I'm thinking the more criminal and violent sides of these protests (the shooting and looting and violence) would have been present whether they released the video right off the bat or not. It possibly could have mitigated the overall numbers of vandalism and looting, but I think there still would have been incidents.
I agree with the previous poster about the individual handing out hugs.
Hotdog
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I bet she said to the guy, put your hands up and walk slowly back to your car in the middle of the road. Then when you get back to your car in the middle of the road, put your hands down towards your pockets.
Then BAM! She shoots him. Totally surprising the guy.
This was a setup.
Vote Hillary.
Then BAM! She shoots him. Totally surprising the guy.
This was a setup.
Vote Hillary.