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ESPN homerizing the "victim all star" again

The Jazz Wonderbra

The Jazz Wonderbra

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-lot-disrespectful-vulgar-things?platform=amp

Poor Russell Westbrook. At 6'4" full of muscle, paid in the 100+ millions... Seems he is the REAL victim here... not the 230 lb. 5'6" fan with a cellphone who paid a few hundred dollars to get a seat to a game and taunted like every fan will from high school basketball to fancy gentlemen on a polo field to the manly beach yacht club racers.

The fact that ESPN is defending a poor sport athlete when he went after a fan is ridickulous. The guy didn't stick around to shake anyone hands or wish anyone good luck. He just pissed on a random fan and proceeded to do it again in the postgame comments. Boohoo Westbrook and booboo ESPN for encouraging this conversation.
 
I think when you side with the A_hole fans and justify rude and embarrassing behavior towards players it just shows the lack of ability to see things from someone elses point of view. Which probably means you lack empathy for other human beings, or are dumb, or both. Probably both. It also shows your lack of perspective on life and what is really important.

Just because someone makes a lot of money doesnt mean they dont deserve to be treated dignity and respect.

It just amazes me how people get all crazy and psycho about all this. In most cases these are good people playing a game that they have spent countless hours trying to get good at. They get on a stage and entertain you. A show that you voluntarily chose to watch. They demonstrate a skill that you cant and or wont do because you dont have it in you to work as hard as them. What they do is very hard to do. You should just appreciate what you are seeing. Guys like Russell Westbrook are needed. You need him to make this fun. He is not a real villain. Attention! Let me say it again. He is not a real villain. This is just entertainment.
 
OKC wins this series and you don't hear a thing about Jazz fans from Westbrook. Find it ironic the biggest hot head and biggest cry baby on the court was the only one that had an issue with us. We gave it PG relentlessly as well and haven't heard a peep about from him.
 
I think the best thing we can do is echo that being a fan that dehumanizes players for fun is ****** and call people out when we see it.

Defending **** like that or taking it personally does absolutely no good and might speak to the criticism.
 
For the record, I loved that Hood slapped the phone out of that fan's hand earlier this year. My favorite thing he did this year.
 
Oh no, somebody put a cell phone near my face. I feel so dehumanized. Wahhh. What silly nonsense this all is. The truth is that Russell Westbrook just needs to grow up and stop being a sore loser. The fan may have been very slightly out of line. I mean, freaking out about the phone being too close to his face sounds like a subplot of a Seinfeld episode.
 
Sport is an emotional thing.

I've seen every fan base do ridiculous things. Detroit threw stuff at Ron Artest. Reggie Miller and Spike Lee used to go at it. European Soccer fans need to sectioned off by two rows of security... In fact, they often cannot sell out the arena because they need empty seats between opposing fans. Ricky Rubio says that he got batteries thrown at him while he was playing European Basketball.

Sports can be cathartic, but at times it can also release the 'irrational' nature out of us (especially when we are surrounded by thousands of people screaming in affirmation/opposition).

Utah is not the worst. However, we are no angels either.

The fan was being rude and so was Russell Westbrook. I do not see either as a victim.

When Donovan Mitchell yelled at the fans, "I'll see you all next year" after game 5. Nobody on this site made too much of a fuss.

Oh... and Stephen Jackson is just bitter that he lost the series. If the Warrior would have beat us. He would have stood in the middle of the arena said some things and thumped his chest (and rightfully so). Sport is like that sometimes.

tl;dr. Sport is hyper-emotional. You cannot expect everyone to act reasonably all the time.
 
WhiskyPriest said:
Sport is an emotional thing.

I've seen every fan base do ridiculous things. Detroit threw stuff at Ron Artest. Reggie Miller and Spike Lee used to go at it. European Soccer fans need to sectioned off by two rows of security... In fact, they often cannot sell out the arena because they need empty seats between opposing fans. Ricky Rubio says that he got batteries thrown at him while he was playing European Basketball.

Sports can be cathartic, but at times it can also release the 'irrational' nature out of us (especially when we are surrounded by thousands of people screaming in affirmation/opposition).

Utah is not the worst. However, we are no angels either.

The fan was being rude and so was Russell Westbrook. I do not see either as a victim.

When Donovan Mitchell yelled at the fans, "I'll see you all next year" after game 5. Nobody on this site made too much of a fuss.

Oh... and Stephen Jackson is just bitter that he lost the series. If the Warrior would have beat us. He would have stood in the middle of the arena said some things and thumped his chest (and rightfully so). Sport is like that sometimes.

tl;dr. Sport is hyper-emotional. You cannot expect everyone to act reasonably all the time.
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The fan was being rude and so was Russell Westbrook? Some of the dumbest ****ing logic.

So if someone punches me in the face for no apparent reason, that’s rude but I shouldn’t punch them back because that would be rude to do so?
 
So what did the fan *actually* say? Does anyone know? Can it be verified that whatever was said is actually worse than what other fan bases say? Or is this vague claim just an invention after the fact to justify his behaviour?
 
Hitman said:
So what did the fan *actually* say? Does anyone know? Can it be verified that whatever was said is actually worse than what other fan bases say? Or is this vague claim just an invention after the fact to justify his behaviour?
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This guy tweeted out DURING the game saying he asked a security guard what was said at halftime and it was "How's your ankles." He also later tweeted that there wasn't anything vulgar being said.


However I think it was ridiculous to put a phone right in Westbrook's face (Or anyone else for that matter) when he was leaving the court. Russ is a very emotional player and getting eliminated only amplifies that then you add in someone putting a phone in your face only piles on.
 
Dear Jazz fans,

Please refrain from heckling, chanting pushoff p, talking about players ankles, and holding up 4 fingers. Instead, blow kisses, whisper of you have anything to say, and wear your Sunday best.

Heckling hurts. Poor guy. He probably felt bullied. Let's make utah the sweetest and quietest arena in the world! Thank you for telling f u to the fans Westbrook. Great shot... do it again melo.

There is a line you don't cross. Don't cross it. But HECKLE, BE LOUD, GET IN THEIR HEADS, PUSHOFF P, HOWS YOUR ANKLES AWAY!!! GO JAZZ!
 
I don't know about the half time guy, but I don't think filming players leaving the court is off limits. When I'm videoing someone, I'm holding the phone at arms length. Boo hoo, see ya next year.

And I'll bet it was the guy at half time that referenced Westbrook's ankles.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I think the best thing we can do is echo that being a fan that dehumanizes players for fun is ****** and call people out when we see it.

Defending **** like that or taking it personally does absolutely no good and might speak to the criticism.
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I think we all agree but has it came out what was said?
If it was “how are your ankles?” Then should we be way upset with the fan who said that? Or only if it was racist or about family or something.

Is it ok to say something like “bye bye, don’t let the door hit ya on the way out” as he is exiting the court (not taking the time to shake any jazz players hands for that matter)?

How about when the dj plays Hit The Road Jack when a player gets tossed or fouls out? Is that ok or is that over the line?
 
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