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Rudy Gobert selected to third team All-NBA

Ellipse said:
Wow, leave it to Jazzfanz to focus on the cloud behind the silver lining. How about we just enjoy Rudy's recognition as one of the top players in the league and save the contract nonsense for after next season?
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Jazz nation. It’s been on twitter as well
 
Congrats to Rudy who completely deserves it. Cannot believe the bitches moaning about having to pay him. Dude is the best player in the league on one half of the court and a very very effective and important player on the other half. A fiery competitor who kept improving after his last extension, loves being in Salt Lake, a great team player and standup guy. One of arguably the top 15 most impactful players on WINNING basketball games. And ppl are stressed about paying him ?? gtfo
 
Trade1stsfor1yearpgs said:
I agree completely. I know most Jazz fans love him but I just can not see a team where Gobert is the best and highest paid player on a team winning a championship. Trade him for assets and start Favors at center. I'm tired of our best player being useless once we reach an elite team in the playoffs. In his exit interview, Gobert said the team needs to make hard decisions. He had to have been referring to choosing between him and Favors. Paying what the Jazz pay for both of them when they're basically starting centers (well one is a very expensive back-up center), it doesn't leave enough money for other positions.

I think Gobert wants a choice to be made and I don't know if Lindsey has the guts to make that choice. Lindsey always bets on the wrong horse. He sincerely believed the Jazz had a real chance re-signing Hayward, he sincerely believed Exum was worth investing in, now Exum is tying up $11 million a year the next two years while being perpetually injured, Lindsey believes the Jazz can win a championship with a team built around Gobert. I just don't see it. Gobert is going to want all-star money but he doesn't bring it on offense like all-star players do. There is no other all-star caliber player in the league that requires an expensive insurance player (Favors) for his weaknesses. The Jazz can't afford to treat Gobert like the king he wants to be treated as and have money needed for offense in other positions.

I don't see the Jazz being a finals contender with a team designed around Gobert. I think Gobert is clearly the best trade piece the Jazz have right now. I don't think Gobert will re-sign with the Jazz if they continue being just a good team that has nothing for elite teams in the west. So either get something for Gobert or watch him leave in a few years. I have no issue admitting being wrong. If the Jazz start inching closer to the WCF/Finals with a team built around Gobert, I'll admit I was wrong. I will graciously admit being wrong. Quote this post and I will acknowledge I was wrong. I just wish if we're going to be paying all-star money for a player, that they could actually contribute in an exciting way against elite teams. if they can't do that, don't bet the house on them.


This team needs a point guard and doesn't have the assets useful for the Grizzlies to make a Conley trade. This team is going to be getting another fringe starting caliber 1 or 2 year temporary point guard band-aid while also needing to upgrade at shooting forward or the 4 and being married to Gobert's ego and upcoming pay day. It's an ugly situation the team is in
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We get it, you hate Rudy Gobert. Welcome to the ignore list.
 
Douchebag K said:
Congrats to Rudy who completely deserves it. Cannot believe the bitches moaning about having to pay him. Dude is the best player in the league on one half of the court and a very very effective and important player on the other half. A fiery competitor who kept improving after his last extension, loves being in Salt Lake, a great team player and standup guy. One of arguably the top 15 most impactful players on WINNING basketball games. And ppl are stressed about paying him ?? gtfo
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Agreed but tbh I would worry about paying anyone 60 million for a season when they are 32 years old. Even Steph, Bron, KD etc

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This is all I'll say about the supermax: it acts as a penalty to teams that actually draft and develop their players. It hasn't done **** to keep players on their original teams.

This league is going to have an issue with teams hemorrhaging franchise players until they can push through a franchise tag style provision (which they should sacrifice points on BRI to the players in exchange for).
 
NUMBERICA said:
This is all I'll say about the supermax: it acts as a penalty to teams that actually draft and develop their players. It hasn't done **** to keep players on their original teams.

This league is going to have an issue with teams hemorrhaging franchise players until they can push through a franchise tag style provision (which they should sacrifice points on BRI to the players in exchange for).
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Outside of Davis everyone else offered the supermax took it. This year Lillard, Walker, and Gobert are eligible for it and don't see any of them passing it up.
 
Klay was robbed. Should of had spot over Russ,imo.
So every one talks about the myth that the Jazz Rob the nuggets in trades but they traded for Jokic pick and Jokic is a cornerstone of building a team. Gobert got third team over KAT because jazz made playoffs. He is not one of the top 15 players in the league.imo. Solid player, 15 years ago would had been a best with post moves but he great defensive anchor but he doesn't have any offensive moves.
 
Knowledgeofmine said:
Klay was robbed. Should of had spot over Russ,imo.
So every one talks about the myth that the Jazz Rob the nuggets in trades but they traded for Jokic pick and Jokic is a cornerstone of building a team. Gobert got third team over KAT because jazz made playoffs. He is not one of the top 15 players in the league.imo. Solid player, 15 years ago would had been a best with post moves but he great defensive anchor but he doesn't have any offensive moves.
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His offensive moves are the screen assist and gravity created by rolling to the basket. He led the league in screen assists and top 5 in FG % for anyone beyond lucky taking their first shot.
 
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Knowledgeofmine said:
Klay was robbed. Should of had spot over Russ,imo.
So every one talks about the myth that the Jazz Rob the nuggets in trades but they traded for Jokic pick and Jokic is a cornerstone of building a team. Gobert got third team over KAT because jazz made playoffs. He is not one of the top 15 players in the league.imo. Solid player, 15 years ago would had been a best with post moves but he great defensive anchor but he doesn't have any offensive moves.
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You’re a creepy weirdo ****. Rudy is easily a top 15 impact player HE DUNKS bru. Pretty high % offensive move
 
Jazz4ever said:
He's probably right I was using next years salary cap numbers not 2022 based.
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I honestly have no idea how salary/cap stuff works but I saw someone post that and I was like ah ****. I love Rudy probably more than almost anyone. I'm like his biggest fan. But 60 million at 33 years old? I don't see how you can do that.

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fishonjazz said:
I honestly have no idea how salary/cap stuff works but I saw someone post that and I was like ah ****. I love Rudy probably more than almost anyone. I'm like his biggest fan. But 60 million at 33 years old? I don't see how you can do that.

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I'd still prefer having him locked down though. Because unrestricted free agency is hell for us. The not knowing....trying to plan and build your team around a player that may or may not be there was so hard as we know with Hayward.
 
fishonjazz said:
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I don't understand why we have to say that we hate Gobert if we don't want to give him the max contract, why? why ? Over 230 million are an absurdity for the value of Gobert, which is limited offensively and which in some series of Po you find it hard to keep in the field. To understand each other, I would not give the max contract to Walker or Thompson either ... there are few max contract players, to Lbj, Curry, Kd, Harden, Giannis, Leonard ... already with Lillard who is 29 years old I would think about it .. Not wanting to give the max to Gobert is not to hate him, it is to love the Jazz ..
 
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